On Tuesday 10 June 2003 21:48, Alex Daniloff wrote:
The thing is that you *can* get the apps to work. Maybe not by simply downloading a single package. Instead you have to download a dozen to get all of the libaries, etc.
Shared libraries is a major strength of Linux. Can you imagine having multiple sets of libraries where each one of them is linked to its very own individual package only? Kind of Microsoftish approach with their .dll's.
And when the libraries are not there because they are not part of the default installation and there is nothing in the new package which tells you where they are? When the developer has decided to used functions that are only available with the library that is a month old and your distribution is already two months old? Obviously you are saying that we need to install every single possible shared library and make sure that we have the up-to-the-minute newest versions of all libraries. Kind of Microsoftish approach with their entire operating system.
On the other hand. I consider myself a linux expert compared to the majority of the users, but a "knowledgable user" compared to many on this list. However, I personally find the mechanism for installing new software very annoying in comparison to Windows.
Annoying in the absence of the expertise in Linux :)
Annoying in the fact I, for one, have a life. Every hear of that? ;-) 10 hours is a short work day. I have a wife and two kids, I run two web sites and I am trying to organize a little league baseball team in a country that knows almost nothing about baseball. Linux is not the only thing in the world. I have a life.
Today I had to install two new products on my Windows machine at
work and they installed very easily.
True Linux experts will use Linux even at their work places and convince and teach their colleagues and management how to do the same.
True Linux experts accept the limitations of the product and don't try to sell it off as being the only solution in every single case. Once you get into the real world, you will see that this is not always possible. 75% of the people in my group are Linux supporters, but, as you will see when you get into the real world, the decisions are not made by 75% of the company, let alone 75% of a single group. Decisions in the real world are made by a handful of people. In the real world, decisions like which OS to use are usually based on economics. It would cost more time to convert everyone's workstation to Linux than we spend on Microsoft licenses. It is **not** economically sound to switch. Regretably, I support that decision, despite the fact that I prefer Linux.
Recently I wanted
to install something on my Linux machine but I found out I was
missing a
couple of things that needed other things to install, which needed
still
other things.
And after this, you're still calling yourself a "Linux expert" !?? :)
Alex
So are you obviously saying that an expert is one who enjoys spending hours digging through the internet looking for several different additional packages just so he or she can install one single program? I never said I cannot do it. At most, I said I don't want to. It wastes my life (keep that word in mind, it might be important to you some day). I don't want to spend my time searching for hours on the Internet looking. I have **never** had the problem with Windows. As you can see in other posts, there are quite a number of other people who have the same opinion as I do. Just so we are all clear on what you are talking about, what does not wanting to waste time have anything to do with being an expert or not? Regards, jimmo -- --------------------------------------- "Be more concerned with your character than with your reputation. Your character is what you really are while your reputation is merely what others think you are." -- John Wooden --------------------------------------- Be sure to visit the Linux Tutorial: http://www.linux-tutorial.info --------------------------------------- NOTE: All messages sent to me in response to my posts to newsgroups, mailing lists or forums are subject to reposting.