Trying to rip and copy cd's for the first time. Ran through the setup in K3b and in Grip. Looks great! Both applications see the cd and download the info from CDDB just fine. When it comes time to rip or copy the cd, both applications give up and say they're not going to do it. So I log in as root and try it there. No problem, they both work fine. So I check permissions on my cd-rom device and change it from root to me. I log in as myself again, and the same thing happens again. So I open both apps as root and me, and check item by item in the configs. Set them up exactly the same, and tried again. Same problem. They run as root, but not me. Configs are the same. Device shows I have permissions, and yes I belong to the group. What's the problem? I know it's got to be simple, but I'm just missing it. I could run it as root, but would like to be able to allow another user to rip and write also. Bernd -- "If you want to build a ship, don't drum up the men to gather wood, divide the work, and give orders. Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea." Antoine de St. Exupery