just my 5 cents
I wait to gnome 2.14 in supplementary because it hase a lot of improvements
in speed.
I understanda than gnome 2.12 from SuSE have backported features from
2.14but i cant see any speed up improvement.
sry fro my english
On 5/23/06, Pascal Bleser
jdd wrote:
Marcus Meissner wrote:
Unfortunately they then loose security updates when they do this.
Since supplementary contains usually the newest versions, this is not a real issue.
as always, if you begin this you _must_ continue upgrade any version. In a production system, this seems a very bad idea. so if people ask for this, the only answer is: don't do so.
I can understand one needs the very last kdenlive, because this is very new app, but what about Kde???
Come spend some time on IRC and see what people are actually asking for.
*Most if not almost everyone* over there wants and installs the latest KDE packages from KDE supplementary.
KDE 3.5.2 has a lot of bugfixes compared to 3.5.1.
As of SL 10.0, the difference is even bigger: 3.5.x is a *lot* faster than 3.4.2. Frankly, on 10.0, I'd recommend anyone to upgrade to 3.5.x (unless it's a server and you don't care about the desktop in the first place).
Answering "don't do so" would be stupid IMO. We do point them out to the fact that it's unsupported and merely provided by convenience, and that they won't get Online Updates for those packages, but as Marcus and I pointed out, the record until now has been very good wrt that (at least for KDE supplementary): it's always the latest version and I've even seen major bugfixes and security fixes being provided in that repository as well. People are very aware of those facts when they choose to upgrade to KDE 3.5.2 and it's not turning them off in any way.
I'm very aware of the "featuritis" syndrome, but as far as guerrilla marketing is concerned... You might not think that way, and neither do I nor most people on this list, but from what I've seen on IRC (and I'm on #suse and #opensuse every night), I think that many potential SUSE Linux converts who come asking for information about the distribution would likely rather use another (e.g. kubuntu) than staying with KDE 3.4.x. At least that was the case for SL 10.0. Correct me if I'm wrong but that's really my impression.
Before making assumptions in your black box, come out and look what users are asking for. They want it, and so do I, and we're fine using it. The fact that this works is of course mostly due to the fact that the KDE packagers in Nürnberg (Cornelius Schumacher and Stephan Binner) are fast and reactive to provide packages in the KDE supplementary repository. Unfortunately, and as discussed in another thread, that's not the case for the supplementary GNOME repository, and generally we (on IRC) recommend rather not to use it or, if so, with great care, as we've seen it blow up quite a few desktop setups. Hopefully it'll get better :)
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