On Wednesday 12 May 2004 11:52, you wrote:
Sorry if that subject line appears to be mashing things together, they may be related.
Another reply to own thread - sorry - I just think USB experts might spot why 8.2 and 9.0 can mount this compact flash disk so that one can actually read data off it either in a reader or in a camera, and why 9.1 can do neither. For the benefit of those who may not have enjoyed previous elements of the thread, in essence the mounting process gets as far as providing a location like: file:/media/usb-storage-odd-NIKON-NIKONDSCD70:0:0:0p1 But then won't actually let you read the disk, and locks Konqueror 3.2.2 so that it has to be destroyed. Here's a transcript of 9.1 struggling to mount the camera, twice: May 12 08:53:00 pc02 kernel: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 2 May 12 08:53:00 pc02 kernel: usb 1-1: Product: NIKON DSC D70 May 12 08:53:00 pc02 kernel: usb 1-1: Manufacturer: NIKON May 12 08:53:01 pc02 /etc/hotplug/usb.agent[3481]: need a device for this command May 12 08:53:02 pc02 kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... May 12 08:53:02 pc02 kernel: scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices May 12 08:53:02 pc02 kernel: Vendor: NIKON Model: D70 Rev: 1.01 May 12 08:53:02 pc02 kernel: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 May 12 08:53:03 pc02 kernel: SCSI device sda: 501761 512-byte hdwr sectors (257 MB) May 12 08:53:03 pc02 kernel: sda: assuming Write Enabled May 12 08:53:03 pc02 kernel: sda: assuming drive cache: write through May 12 08:53:03 pc02 /etc/hotplug/block.agent[3559]: try 1 while waiting for / block/sda's bus_id 0:0:0:0 May 12 08:53:03 pc02 kernel: sda:end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 501760 May 12 08:53:03 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 501760 May 12 08:53:03 pc02 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 501760 May 12 08:53:03 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 501760 May 12 08:53:03 pc02 kernel: sda1 May 12 08:53:03 pc02 kernel: Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 May 12 08:53:03 pc02 kernel: USB Mass Storage device found at 2 May 12 08:53:03 pc02 kernel: drivers/usb/core/usb.c: registered new driver usb-storage May 12 08:53:03 pc02 kernel: USB Mass Storage support registered. May 12 08:53:04 pc02 kernel: Attached scsi generic sg0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0, type 0 May 12 08:53:04 pc02 /etc/hotplug/block.agent[3581]: new block device /block/ sda/sda1 May 12 08:53:04 pc02 /etc/hotplug/block.agent[3559]: waiting for /var/lock/ block.agent.lock, process 3581 holds it May 12 08:53:06 pc02 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 0 May 12 08:53:22 pc02 /etc/hotplug/block.agent[3581]: mount by-path/ usb-storage-odd-NIKON-NIKONDSCD70:0:0:0p1 May 12 08:53:23 pc02 /etc/hotplug/block.agent[3559]: new block device /block/ sda May 12 08:53:37 pc02 kernel: usb 1-1: sg_complete, unlink --> -19 May 12 08:53:37 pc02 last message repeated 11 times May 12 08:56:19 pc02 su: (to root) fergus on /dev/pts/41 May 12 08:56:19 pc02 su: pam_unix2: session started for user root, service su May 12 08:59:00 pc02 /USR/SBIN/CRON[5150]: (root) CMD ( rm -f /var/spool/cron/ lastrun/cron.hourly) May 12 08:59:11 pc02 kernel: usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 2 We have anther go: May 12 09:06:05 pc02 kernel: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 2 May 12 09:06:05 pc02 kernel: usb 1-1: Product: NIKON DSC D70 May 12 09:06:05 pc02 kernel: usb 1-1: Manufacturer: NIKON May 12 09:06:05 pc02 /etc/hotplug/usb.agent[3455]: need a device for this command May 12 09:06:12 pc02 kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... May 12 09:06:12 pc02 kernel: scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices May 12 09:06:12 pc02 kernel: Vendor: NIKON Model: D70 Rev: 1.01 May 12 09:06:12 pc02 kernel: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 May 12 09:06:12 pc02 kernel: SCSI device sda: 501761 512-byte hdwr sectors (257 MB) May 12 09:06:12 pc02 kernel: sda: assuming Write Enabled May 12 09:06:12 pc02 kernel: sda: assuming drive cache: write through May 12 09:06:12 pc02 /etc/hotplug/block.agent[3547]: try 1 while waiting for / block/sda's bus_id 0:0:0:0 May 12 09:06:12 pc02 kernel: sda:end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 501760 May 12 09:06:12 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 501760 May 12 09:06:12 pc02 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 501760 May 12 09:06:12 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 501760 May 12 09:06:12 pc02 kernel: sda1 May 12 09:06:12 pc02 kernel: Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 May 12 09:06:12 pc02 kernel: USB Mass Storage device found at 2 May 12 09:06:12 pc02 kernel: drivers/usb/core/usb.c: registered new driver usb-storage May 12 09:06:12 pc02 kernel: USB Mass Storage support registered. May 12 09:06:13 pc02 kernel: Attached scsi generic sg0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0, type 0 May 12 09:06:13 pc02 /etc/hotplug/block.agent[3569]: new block device /block/ sda/sda1 May 12 09:06:14 pc02 /etc/hotplug/block.agent[3547]: waiting for /var/lock/ block.agent.lock, process 3569 holds it May 12 09:06:16 pc02 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 0 May 12 09:06:31 pc02 /etc/hotplug/block.agent[3569]: mount by-path/ usb-storage-odd-NIKON-NIKONDSCD70:0:0:0p1 May 12 09:06:31 pc02 /etc/hotplug/block.agent[3547]: new block device /block/ sda May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 0 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 0 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 1 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 2 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 3 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 4 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 5 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 6 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 7 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 8 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 9 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 10 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 11 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 12 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 13 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 14 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 15 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 16 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 17 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 18 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 19 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 20 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 21 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 22 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 23 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 24 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 25 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 26 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 27 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 28 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 29 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 30 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 31 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 32 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 33 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 34 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 35 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 36 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 37 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 38 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 39 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 40 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 41 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 42 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 43 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 44 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 45 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 46 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 47 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 48 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 49 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 50 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 51 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 52 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 53 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 54 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 55 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 56 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 57 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 58 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 59 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 60 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 61 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 62 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 63 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 64 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 65 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 66 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 67 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 68 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 69 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 70 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 71 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 72 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 73 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 74 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 75 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 76 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 77 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 78 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 79 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 80 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 81 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 82 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 83 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 84 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 85 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 86 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 87 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 88 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 89 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 90 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 91 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 92 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 93 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 94 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 95 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 96 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 97 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 98 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 99 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 100 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 101 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 102 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 103 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 104 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 105 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 106 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 107 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 108 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 109 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 110 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 111 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 112 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 113 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 114 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 115 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 116 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 117 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 118 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 119 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 120 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 121 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 122 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 123 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 124 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 125 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 126 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 127 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 0 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 0 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 1 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 2 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 3 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 4 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 5 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 6 May 12 09:06:47 pc02 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 7 May 12 09:06:48 pc02 kernel: usb 1-1: sg_complete, unlink --> -19 May 12 09:06:48 pc02 kernel: usb 1-1: sg_complete, unlink --> -19
I've now tried to get a cf card to mount using a usb card reader on two 9.1 machines, fully patched including kernel patches, and upgraded to kde 3.2.2. I've also tried to get both to recognise a camera attached by USB, which works fine under 8.2 and 9.0.
Rather like Art Fore's problems with a firewire hd, I get a 'cant enter folder' message, or sometimes no message at all. Though at least ARt seems to be able to get to part of his disk. SuSEplugger can see the cf disk as a disk in at least some cases, and sometimes a Konq window opens. The camera gets assigned a directory like:
file:/media/usb-storage-odd-NIKON-NIKONDSCD70:0:0:0p1
but you can't change into it or list it. The konqueror window dies after a while and has to be closed down. I've had the same with trying to launch things like the bbc radio listen-on-line service, which again worked fine in 8.2 and 9.0. I'm also reading huge load averages on one of the machines during, though not necessarily due to, this business - loads like 8.5. But top only shows one or two running processes that don't seem to account for that sort of load, and are typically X and top itself.
For a lark, I tried booting the machine with the camera plugged in and switched on, but this produced a grub error message and the box wouldn't boot. It also seems to rather defeat the point of USB if one has to reboot - not that things worked then either.
I think something is quite odd in the new mounting system, but don't know where to try to fix things. I can't say I think much of the 'My computer' window, much as it may be trying to make windows users feel at home, at my end it just seemed to obscure the device names. I'd be very grateful if people could report success or failure with cf cards and cameras under 9.1, perhaps to me rather than the list, and then I'll summarise if there's enough traffic to warrant it.
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