On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:47:42 -0700, Peter Nikolic <p.nikolic1@btinternet.com> wrote:
I have used Opensuse now for some years since the days of 5.3 in fact and Linux in general well before that since the days of the Early 0.9 kernels all floppy distro no X i also ran Slackware and Red Hat and tested a few more along the way so i know a thing or two about Linux i have even brewed up my own distro at one time .
It has to be said now after attempting to get 11.2 MS2 and 11.2 MS3 to play the game the standards of releases has fallen to a new all time low how on earth have you got the front to call these releases anything other than Alpha at best .
The sound system is a total mess this pulseaudio thing is what nothing more than a total blight on the system there needs to be a choice for users risk pulseaudio or can that and run safe Alsa sound system . I know you are going to say Alsa doesn't do this or that but unlike pulseaudio it never failed to work it never chopped the audio
Beagle ! what a total pain and complete resource hog once again it needs to be a LOT easier to un-install or not install at all With the requisite warning for those that do install it beware it will hog your CPU for excessive amounts of time , Likewise Nepomuk .
KDE now i actually don't happen to believe all that has been said about the use of or rather almost ENFORCED use of KDE4.x and whilst it is sort of shaping up it will not be ready for the 11.2 release no way too much still don't play ball nice at all and needs sorting a lot to do with multimedia just plain does not work or if it does thanks to the enforced use of that pulseaudio stuff jitters and skips or as happens here when playing a DVD it stops then repeats a sylable carries on for a few seconds then does the same again well i spose if you like Norman Collier that's all well and good i think he's a prat .
It seems now that no one actually gives a monkeys about the standards of the releases now that some members of staff have been dispensed with it seems and quite probably others the wrong staff members were dispensed with what is it going to take to get this distro back on track and back to a decent standard , Even the Ill fated 10.0 was far better than 11.2 is right now and arguably better than 11.2 as well.
Then we have this whole License thing about codecs and DVD playing software things like DHT as well , People purchase a distro and rightfully so expect to be able to install it bang in a DVD and have it play not go faffing around having to instantly pollute a new install with essentially foreign packages not everyone has a good enough Internet connection to do that any way , maybe it is time for Opensuse to find a new home where German licensing rules don't apply .
This mail is aimed squarley at the Opensuse team who o know will call me for everything under the sun plus some it is a two way street don forget i have gripes with quite a few there who's attitudes STINK but i am not interested in them right now , Contray to the comments that will come in from one in perticular a lot of the content of this email will be agreed by a considerable number of people a lot will keep stum they dont want their name to appear thats ok by me some may just get brave enough to agree fair dincum blue but do not for one moment think i am a one off this world is full of people that think one thing and say another for the sake of not standing out
There is a lot more i could mention maybe i will shortly but one thing is for sure the situation as of this moment is a total disgrace to the SuSe name and a very poor shadow of it's former good name sort it out people , There is no point being the first ones to release something if it is a complete screwup a little more time in the R&D and less in the sales will work wonders
Pete .
Everyone is open to give their opinion, but it's much better warranted when you give better or more examples, or compare how another distribution does the same process (but better). Sounds like all your complaints are pretty much "linux" and not openSUSE in general. Even one of the most popular distributions (that in Ubuntu) ships without codec support, ships with pulse audio (and the latest Alpha build is giving me a hard kernel stop). How about the problem with Arch linux when you try to install in VirtualBox? Again, another kernel hard stop when udev starts to probe. Many of your initial complaints seemed to be geared towards staffing, which could be a more reasonable complaint, but you realize they are sponsored by Novell and we're in the middle of a massive global recession, right? Novell has share holders to please. I agree the in its current state openSUSE 11.2 Milestone 3 isn't great (ie Compiz w/ Nvidia doesn't work well, and LVM booting is broken on / although it was fixed IN time for M3) you can't judge a final product (openSUSE 11.2) by its Alpha stage products (yes, I agree they should re-instate the real meanings and drift away from Milestones). The openSUSE line has the bleeding edge packages, and sometimes these packages aren't perfect and have some issues that need to be sorted out. These are typically fixed, figured out before sending it to their SLED line. So if you're not looking for bleeding edge and supported stability you should consder trying the SLED line of products. I do however wish we still had a KDE 3.5 choice on the DVD (but I realize that keeping them side by side would just cause developers to have less time to work on the stuff going foreward).. how many other distributions have KDE 3.5? Now think of their versioning in general, they are not targeted at bleeding edge. Kubuntu dropped KDE3 when KDE 4.0.0 came out pretty much. Ben -- If you don't know what you want, you end up with a lot you don't. -Fight Club -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org