14 Jul
2009
14 Jul
'09
15:04
On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 10:22 -0400, Larry Stotler wrote: > On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 6:47 AM, Adam Tauno > Williams<awilliam@whitemice.org> wrote: > > That is the rub for these tools; they can only help a user *IF* the > > user chooses to use them. If the user insists on just working the way > > she/he always has... then these tools seem like an annoying > > interference. > Actually, that's not the problem. The problem is 2 things: > 1. Compelling need - After thoroughly reviewing all these "features" > and "Benefits" of things like KDE4 and beagle, I have found little if > any reason to use them. That you find no reason to use them does not mean there is no reason to use them. > 2. Adjusting to the change - I, as a home user, don't want to waste > my time trying to figure out how to make things work for me > considering the lack of benefits. Of course this cyclically reinforces itself. > But, in a business enviroment, this > is the big one. This is the inertia that keeps people using > Win/Office because that's what they are used to OR that's what their > company purchases. So? Follow this path and you might as well just cease all development on everything. Give everyone a Commodore 64 running GEOS and call it a day; that is what millions of people were used to once upon a time. Why even use LINUX, people are used to XP. > > On the other hand I do think that the 'Semantic web/desktop' is > > over-hyped [in GNOME, KDE, and the Web] by the hard-core evangelists. > > Some of it seems to assume users spend all thier time in IM chats with > > their friends and listening to MP3 playlists. But if you're a 'real' > > user with large documents and heaps of e-mail and spreadsheets then > > search tools can make many tasks more efficient, provided you learn to > > use them. > I don't have text messaging on my cell phone(unlimited minutes, no > home phone since 1997), don't use Twitter or anything like that, don't > work in a collaborative enviroment, so I have to agree about the > over-hype. Like I said, it's an answer looking for a problem. Ok, this puts you in a pretty small minority of tech users. It doesn't really bolster the position that what you like should be an indicator of what should be installed/enabled by default. > I don't mind the fact that people like bling. Just give me an easy > way to turn it off. There already is <http://en.opensuse.org/Disabling_Beagle> > The devs seems to have forgotten about that when they decided to > target new users. No, they didn't, see the above URL (at least in the case of Beagle). And most new users probably have text messaging and use collaborative tools (like twitter, IM, etc...) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org