Peter, I just wonder what your point is beside being displeased with openSuSE? I see messages going back and forth leading too nowhere and thus are a waste of time. Also, the quality is missing as well as a rapid decline in mutual respect. If someone does not agree with your view, ok, it is noted but the receiver decides whether or not he/she will act upon it. Never the sender.
By the way, the latter applies for ALL participants in the 'discussion'.
Having noted that Peter dislikes version 11.2 alpha version x, can we put this to rest?
Regards, Frans.
On Sun, 2009-07-12 at 00:31 +0100, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Saturday 11 Jul 2009 18:14:03 Thierry de Coulon wrote:
On Saturday 11 July 2009, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Saturday 11 Jul 2009 13:25:46 Thierry de Coulon wrote:
Why don't you file bug reports instead of compaining that an alpha release is an alpha release?
Thats simple bug report Opensuse 11.2.xx is a BUG
That good enough for you and your buggy friends ?
The truth is i am SICK of trying to get bug reports acted on when i manage to get into that dumb bugzilla thing and report bugs FA is done about them so whats the point answer me that
Pete --
Well i see it's working
@JB2: sorry about top posting, but is _that_ the important thing? Besides, it so happens that kmail does not send you to the end of the message when you answer, so if you don't pay enough attention... my mistake.
@JB2 & Peter Nikolic: I can understand bugzilla is not working well and the bug reports are not being handled tha right way, but I fail to see how ranting in _this_ mailing list about an alpha release can in any way improve the situation...
I always hought alpha releases were there to see what works and what not and correct these problems. Given the number of elements that work for one, but not for the others, I find it difficult to discuss the "quality" of an alpha release globaly from a single experience.
I do have a problem with alpha or beta quality releases being presented as 1.0 versions, but that's another story, but I would not even dare to complain here about a beta release, it being clearly announced as "not finished".
Thierry
Not Ranting simply stating a point in a vocal fashion just making a point
Pete I actually dislike the very lax dont give a monkeys attitude that seems to be creeping into Opensuse by the very vocal few so now they got someone equally as vocal that can see thru the Blah that keeps on being spread in previous releases there was a problem it was seen to in reasonable order now it is swept under the rug/carpet and hoped it would be forgotten about or maked as wontfix what excuse is that if you are happy with that i am NOT , Where this Milestone thing came from i do not know A Mile Stone is an achievement a big
On Sunday 12 Jul 2009 11:52:41 Frans de Boer wrote: thing these releases are no way anything even close , Certain stuff has been a retrograde step in many ways , Basically all i want / am asking for is that action is taken to get Opensuse back to a decent standard even the Alpha's and please lets get back to proper naming and call an Alpha an Alpha and Beta a Beta far better than this mockery of a hiding device that the naming is now it's farcical at best "Corporate Blah" would be another useable term . I saw something from Greg KH saying everyone was busy on something else what else AFAIK there is only one Opensuse or is there a parralle universe where they have access the good whilst we collect the crap and programming cockups ! Pete .