Well, I finally took the plunge yesterday and, while it is not without its warts, 11.0 IS up and running! It is still doing its initial update (my internet connection is spotty and I had to retry several times due to timeouts.) The biggest problem I encountered was some old virtual mailbox experimental stuff in /etc/postfix/main.cf used mysql (which is not working yet) which caused trivial-rewrite to die, preventing any mail delivery in or outbound. Commenting the virtual mailbox stuff out and restarting postfix worked. The other issue (so far) is the GUI does not come up on reboot. (I am in runlevel 5.) It works fine to login to a character screen and invoke it with "startx" which is what we do on all our servers at work, i.e., come up in runlevel 3 by default. Now if I can just figure out how to toggle back and forth between zoom and full views in alpine ... (I mark many messages using differing criteria but now it insists on invoking the zoom view after each select and the only way I have been able to get out is handle (save, delete, etc.) that set. Tedious! Thank you, Lucky Leavell -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org