kanenas wrote:
3. This is the only SuSE system besides 10.1 where a reboot "makes things ok for a while, then shtuff lapses into an almost predictable pattern of problems". 10.1 is guilty too, but does the dirty deed with much less frequency.
You know, I hate to say it, but my experience is that this is a classic symptom of bad RAM. Have you run something like MEMTEST86 to verify that's not your issue? I've had systems with bad RAM where Windows would run OK most of the time but Linux would have all kinds of problems. I had one system (actually running FreeBSD) that had a SIMM with two stuck bits. The system would run great for about two days, then some important kernel structure would hit the defective memory locations and the system would lock solid. That took a lot of head-scratching to figure out.
10.2 has been quite stable for me ever since I disabled zmd. ;) That said, I'm on 32-bit platforms, and it's possible you're hitting some bug specific to 64-bit systems. All suggestions about my system are appreciated. But my point is that reliability is normal under 10.1 and 10.0 running in the same hardware, with
On Friday 02 March 2007 09:26, David Brodbeck wrote: the "same" apps, actually vmware uses the same virtual machines no matter which suse i run. I just killed my 10.0 installation and installed the 32 bit 10.2 in that partition, but I can still compare shtuff between my 10.1 install and the 10.2. ten poin two loses every time... Bad ram was one of the first things suspected, I have 2 gigs of it and I do run memtest once in a while, but running 2 xp vms, firefox with 10 tabs, an instance of oo, kmail, googleearth and avidemux in 10.1 does not result in the freeze-ups that 10.2 does... To be honest, I have not run a test in the past month, so one might be overdue, will do one tonight. My experience with memtest is that if a stick is bad, it will be exposed within 5 minutes, never had a different conclusion after an overnight test, nevertheless I do run it overnight. Re zmd, I have not had the trouble I had with it in 10.1, so zmd is still active and apparently is working well. But beagle was never installed, it was removed from the initial install. Regarding my frustration, it should be clear that it is not linux bashing. It is directed at the "features galore, never mind the crashes" attitude of more and more "programmers". It is amazing that someone actually defended bloated programming in this thread, that is just as bad as firefox catching itself crashing, imo they should concentrate on eliminating the crashes, not in catching them!!!!! Quality has been slipping. It is evident that this is deeply rooted in the approach of the new generation of programmers, it is more in line with the instant gratification without work thinking. Please spend the time to make something right, not just 80% functional. Please stick to what works well. Simplify the complicated, fix the bug. Don't add new features until it all works in the first place. Leave the other approach to others... thanks for putting up with the rambling, dimitris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org