On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 01:28:41AM +0200, Pascal Bleser wrote:
From a technical point-of-view, this mail would belong to opensuse-packaging, but I'd like to address a more general problem, which is why I post here.
I would really like to have an explanation: why is it that other distributions (e.g. Fedora and Ubuntu) already have packages for (at least) GNOME 2.14 but none are provided for SUSE Linux ? GNOME supplementary still ships 2.12.
I guess you can expect them soon. Factory development was opened a week ago and I guess you can expect also updated GNOME packages soon, both in Factory and supplementary. (supplementary is in regards to KDE/GNOME usually kept in sync with the Factory versions, to avoid the double integration work(.
And now, the "general problem": I just don't see ex-Ximian people involved into openSUSE at all.
Well, lets list some of the most visible for 10.1 development: Garry Ekker and Stanislav Brabec, GNOME packagers. Robert Love, NetworkManager... You like it in 10.1, right? Larry Ewing, f-spot ... working nicely. Aaron Bockover, banshee ... working nicely and greatly enhanced for 10.1. Jeffrey Steadfast, gnome-volume-manager ... greatly enhanced for 10.1. Michael Meeks, OpenOffice_org ... nuff said. Joe Shaw, beagle. ... and more that I forgot. All of them contributed to 10.1, answered bugreports, etc etc, so they are definitely involved in openSUSE.
Do they actually know that their employer has its own distribution called SUSE Linux ?
Yes.
Miguel de Icaza is leading GNOME AFAIK, and Novell employs quite a lot of GNOME developers.. so... where are the SUSE Linux packages ?
Miguel is more in care of Mono. Nat is in care of the Desktop, focusing on the SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop.
This is really ridiculous.
This is trollbait.
Try it yourself: spend some time on IRC in #suse or #opensuse and explain to some folks why SUSE Linux, the distribution owned by the company that has a lot of GNOME developers and even the GNOME lead on its payroll, does not provide up-to-date GNOME packages.
The answer is mostly because we focused and still focus on delivering 10.1 and SLE 10 as _stable_ product, and openSUSE supplementary and factory is of lower priority now. With the openSUSE buildservice you will likely no longer dependend on us providing the latest GNOME. Ciao, Marcus