I just installed 7.1 on a different box and everything went perfectly. No sound card, mind you. Video set up perfectly. Everything installed perfectly, I then ran all the updates off the mirror I have here, and then here's the true humiliation. The @#$%^&& XEmacs configures correctly. WHY ME?!!!!? WHAT IS WRONG WTIH MY OTHER TWO BOXES? Slamming head against keyboard. WHY ME!???! The installation was perfect. Only the slightest of glitch on the KDE2.1 installation. Kicker didn't position correctly until I moved it to the side and put it back, then exitted and selected save settings. I knew it was bad karma to mix Hindu Gods with Norse Gods. I'm running all Asier now. Hopefully that will prevent further problems. Steve