On 08/11/2010 01:28 AM, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2010/08/11 00:29 (GMT+0200) Frans de Boer composed:
...how am I to recommend this to others if a simple physical display resolution can not even be done anymore. Sorry, this is - in my view - no progress but a step back.
Seems more like 4-5 steps back since randr was conceived. Used to be X could itself perform the functions of cvt, gtf, xmode and/or randr, using a simple expression of desired resolution from xorg.conf to produce the user's preference, but can in many or most cases no longer, instead requiring running in advance any or more of several utilities, and putting their results in some startup script instead of a config file.
In response to your concerns and the reaction of "C" I can say that I do see the advantage of X being self configuring/detecting the hardware. But sacrificing the different resolution possibilities is a design decision and therefor a bug report would be inappropriate. It's no bug, it's a feature (or lack of). By the way, Mac and Windows do support dual displays with different resolutions. However, no panning there - unless the driver supports that natively. Anyhow, we can work around that by changing the xorg.conf file or running xrandr within a script or not. Fact is that the user experience of self configuring X is just one time only and invisible to the user, but the previous goodies are not there anymore for those who use it daily and are not available for future audience anymore making the X experience similar to Mac and Windows - thus not offering any extra. Glad to hear the voice of Felix too, so I am no longer alone in this world ;) So what we actually should do is making a feature request - not a bug report - to restore the previous functionalities with the same easy of control. Or, if that is not honored, to preserve the xorg.conf file functionality in future releases so technical skilled people still can use the required functionality. Also, to get at least on par with Windows and Mac again offer a GUI (intuitive) for xrandr. The display setting experience under X are now static and offer nothing for the normal user to set/change various resolutions. I will look at the xorg site to see where I can drop these requests and concerns. Frans. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org