To whom it may concern, if you find a bug in 10.1 (which is bad enough by itself), you should ask yourself, "why didn't I notice that in one of the various beta and RC releases?" On the other hand, lots of what's being mentioned here is really bad enough for not getting overlooked during beta and RC stage, so it sure does make one wonder how it coulnd've been possible. maybe some of those really have been introduced after the final RC? but then, whats the point in having a final RC release, when you make drastic changes after releasing what would (in an ideal world) be identical to the final master version? that being said, I'm not going to touch 10.1 with a 10ft pole, and NOT for reason of the various bugs, but solely because the non-gpl stuff has been dropped. How am I supposed to download a driver off the 'net when the driver in question is the driver I need to get oin the 'net on the first hand? madwifi/ath0 anyone? bye, MH -- gpg key fingerprint: 5F64 4C92 9B77 DE37 D184 C5F9 B013 44E7 27BD 763C