Hello Nothing indicated worked, but I found sort of a fix. First, the loga are in /var/log/journal. I use to move parts I want to "remove" with a backup :-). When I move this folder, it's *not* recreated at boot. I guess the "Storage" option in /etc/systemd/journald.conf is auto. Changing it to "persistent" makes the journal to be read again. journalctl -b 0 is probably stored in ram (/var/run ?) and with the default setup, there is nothing kept after a reboot is /var/log/journal is removed. I keep it like this now. But to experiment I runned a journalctl --verify on the initial logs, and it found lot of errors - whether or not this fixed the problem I don't know jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org