Hello Richard,
this is explicitly at you as Chair of the OS Board!
On Sun, 16 Jul 2017, Richard Brown wrote: [..]
But the fact is, the people involved in hating on systemd and discuessing it endlessly have done nothing to correct that. The narrative seems to be to expect the hundreds of contributors to the openSUSE Project to do more work or different work.
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You are deluding yourself.
It'd concern a metric buttload of packages that'd need to be adapted back to accepting a different init, login, and whatnot.
Some people tried to keep systemd out, apprehensive of feature-creep (which actually did follow) and/or general LP behaviour, but as systemd has taken over so many _basic_ and crucial points and functions, growing like a cancer, volunteers (e.g. me) without any actual say should be able to change that? When even the mere thought of a rethink is being disregarded? And in any discussion, the fanbois start wailing like [elided], and those in power to e.g. start a new vote just disregard the mere idea.
New facts about systemd are just thoroughly ignored without any discussion. Or beat down.
Like a bug appeared in systemd that demonstrates the _basic_ flaws of systemd and its authors attitudes, systemd fanbois get pouty and start flaming like [elided]...
So keep dreaming of those disappointed and probably embittered people "against systemd" doing the job that all, but esp. you and the maintainers of the oS packages should be doing, i.e. keeping the _choice_ for a different init alive. The opposite is happening. Maintainers quit.
And those not wanting systemd can rant and plead and do as much as they like, unless someone with a say in the matter _does_ things about rethinking/revoting the question of using systemd exclusively(!).
So you're using a fake argument. There is no choice in openSUSE anymore about init and lots more.
Doing something would be forking a complete new Distro, and then there'd be easier distros to start from, e.g. devuan/gentoo/funtoo ...
And, as I predicted that systemd will spread like cancer quite a bit before the choice for using systemd in oS was made, I predict this choice will bite you _BAD_! This will hurt not only openSUSE but SUSE and its product SLE. And many other distros. As they'll become just YARHC (Yet Another RedHat Clone).
Good riddance, -dnh