Acutally, I've been watching this list for about a year now. I have found it to be the most helpful list to watch and generally I don't have a need to even post questions. Just watching the information go by has been most helpful for me. On the few occasions that I have posted questions, the replies have always been most helpful. Especially considering my very limited linux experience or knowledge. The aforementioned people have always seemed to be the most helpful in general on this list and the most patient. They are usually tolerant of most dumb or poorly phrases questions and tend to put up with a lot of crap from impatient f***'s and still manage to help people who truly desire to be helped while coming to this list themselves for help or guidance on new situations. I find it rather pathetic that someone jumps on this list and starts slamming people just because they can. My grandfather once to me to look before I leapt. It's nice to know what your jumping into and it seems to me you've just jumped into the s***. Just my additional waste of bandwidth for me .02. will