On Fri, 2009-11-06 at 11:26 +0100, Lars Müller wrote:
On Fri, Nov 06, 2009 at 10:53:15AM +0100, Hans Witvliet wrote: [ 8< ]
Perhaps it would be informative to have a side-by-side comparison of the main releases (openSUSE_11.2, SLES_11, Buildservice-addons, ubuntu_9.10, fedora_11, centos_5.4, ...) , and what version the most important packages have. (total count of available packages?)
That's nothing a vendor should provide. I fear such a comparison presented at an openSUSE.org page would not help to establish trust into the people behind the project.
True, one might get the impression that the author is perhaps biased ;-)
Such a comparison is a task for Linux magazines. The vendors might provide an overview what's included in which version (glibc, bash, KDE, Gnome, Firefox, Samba, ...).
The other and for the users more important question is how well integrated are the different parts to make it a good = useable product.
Shure, but two things: You can write that 11.2 has the latest (what ever that may mean) versions of firefox, thunderbird OO.o, for working safer and faster and bla-die-bla. But that is what they all do.... Some just released (unnamed) product, still use security related packages that are over a year old. If SuSE demonstrate that their packages are up-to-date, it demonstrate not only that security is an important issue, but also that you have the capability to ensure that it stays that way.
It might be helpfull to have a test suite to check a set of applications to be available and to collect the version data. Like we already have with LSB. I'm not sure if LSB is still limited to rpm based systems.
At the next level we might have to ask ourself if we like to compare our Linux with closed source products like Apple Mac OS and Microsoft Windows?
Shure, Microsoft has a larger share desktop-users. Specialy then, a list of comparable products for endusers might be worthwhile. (and explictly mentioning wine for ommisions on the *nix-list) I still remember that someone at suse mentioned that SuSE were supporting more hardware out-of-the-box than Microsoft. Emphasize on that!
To me the answer is quite clear: In particular the mass market of Microsoft users must be the target. Apple demonstrates that it is possible to bite them. :) And I also like to bite these shiny Apples.
Wonderfully phrased! It boils down to the main question: Do you want to promote why 11.2 is good? Or do you want to promote why 11.2 is better (compared to others)! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org