On Thu, 2002-06-27 at 23:03, Bret Comstock Waldow wrote:
Thanks for your non-cryptic response.
Gnome (from SuSE 7.3 stock, the 1.4 version) was already installed, as was KDE. I haven't decided which I prefer, and I wanted to keep my options open while I figured out a way to get my laptop permanently useable booting Linux primary.
I already ran the Ximian Evolution I installed from the KDE and Gnome menu (this morning), and it runs, and syncs to the Visor (in Gnome only - gnome-pilot, I assume), and sends and receives emails. The only message offered when I run it from a terminal is when I exit Evolution: Waiting for component to die -- OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_Mail_ShellComponent (1)
...which then proceeds to the prompt without further fuss.
This is the normal message seen. Appears that your copy of evolution is working correctly.
On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 15:21, Ralph Sanford wrote: <snip>
That was then. Things have changed.
As of SuSE 7.3 there is no need to use ximian-gnome and red carpet to install evolution, unless you want ximian-gnome.
Since SuSE 7.3 and definitely with SuSE 8.0, there is adequate resources within SuSE to install and maintain a functioning copy of evolution. I saw the Gnome rpm's SuSE provides, along with the current Evolution. What I couldn't figure out was which one's I needed. Gnome-pilot wanted some later libraries than provided by 7.3 out of the box, and then those wanted...etc. That's why I turned to Ximian.
I don't want all the Gnome packages SuSE has lined up on their Gnome update page. How can I know which ones to get to fulfill the dependencies without installing all of them?
And is this a better idea "SuSE-wise"? I'd like to avoid a Frankenstein's monster install of Linux if I can - it's easier to figure out the problems that arise, easier to maintain, etc., so an "all SuSE" installation sounds good to me. Can it be done? As far as I know, I just want Evolution and gnome-pilot to sync with my Visor.
Since it sounds like you have evolution setup and running, and since it seems to do what you want, then there is no need to get additional packages. To keep your life (and your computer) as easy to maintain as possible, I would recommend that you stick to either the ximian-gnome package or the SuSE gnome packages. There is a step increase evolution (1.1. or 1.2) likely being released withing the next two weeks. This step increase will likely require a number of library and other dependency changes and would be a good time to either go ximian or SuSE gnome.
I have two identical hard disks, and one serves as backup. I mirror one disk to the other with dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdc, and I did that yesterday before I embarked on the Ximian experiment. It's easy to drop back to that and go the SuSE route instead, but I need to know how to resolve the dependencies so I don't have to download everything and the footprint shaped kitchen sink too <grin>.
If you now have KDM as your graphical login, my recommendation would be to ignore GDM - some people will disagree. Within KDE go to contol centre -> system -> login manager -> session, there remove the available session gnome and replace with gnome-session. This will allow you to log in to a ximian-gnome session. As you have installed some of ximian-gnome then you can never go into a gnome session that is not ximian. Hmmm. Is "gnome-session" an arbitrary name that distinguishes it to me, to remind me I've made a choice and can't go back, or a name provided by Ximian, that's there waiting to be referenced along with unknown associated settings, etc.?
"gnome-session" is actually the typical way to call up gnome, unless you are using SuSE. The SuSE folks have tweaked the gnome packages included in SuSE so that loading a session called "gnome" brings up gnome. If you build your own gnome or use ximian gnome then gnome is started by calling for a "gnome-session".
The first time you login to a ximian-gnome session, an application known
as doorman will guide you through the setup of ximian-gnome. BTW if you find that you screwed up or want to change the ximian setup just rerun the doorman application. doorman is an application? Oh. I don't find it on my system now - I believe it wasn't downloaded in the "Evolution" option I selected.
Sounds like there have been some improvements to the ximian download site, since my last visit. Last time I was there you could not just download evolution but had to download at least a "minimum" ximian-gnome and then later download evolution. When you downloaded a "minimum" of ximain-gnome you used to get doorman. Sounds like you avoided that by only downloading evolution. -- Ralph Sanford - If your government does not trust you, rsanford@telusplanet.net - should you trust your government? GPG/PGP ID - 0x7A1BEA01