this is a lot of hard work maintaining a linux system. ok. i installed jre 1.5.0.11. open office is happy and sees it. firefox is choking. i su password and cd into /usr/lib/firefox/plugins then i ln -s /usr/java/jre1.5.0_11/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so and the konsole says the connection is made. now i start firefox and go to java.com and verify the install and the browser says the plugin needs to be installed. i don't understand. dwain -- Dwain Alford Alford Design Group P.O. Box 145 Winfield, Alabama 35594 telephone: 205-487-2570 cell: 205.495.5619 email: dwain@alforddesigngroup.com web: http://www.alforddesigngroup.com "The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression." Wassily Kandinsky, "Concerning The Spiritual In Art" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org