We've argued about Akonadi/Nepomuk/Strigi a few times. I have friend who was loudly about "Ontological Systems" and claim that this represents one, but I have my doubts. I regularly kill off the akonadi process tree after booting. I'd like to 'zypper remove' it, but it seems to bound in to other things. But I use Thunderbird and Firefox and Lightening so the PIM side of it is no use to me. I use thunderbird via an IMAP link to my mail hub on a separate machine. I have no use for KDE PIM and don't foresee every having any. The closest use I can see is my directory of PDFs. I save interesting web pages as PDFs (firefox is nice about that) Right now I use mindmaps with short descriptions and links to navigate that. A Wiki might be nicer but I'd still want graphical support. But I have an ordered filing system and I remember where I put stuff! Its just that with so much of it the question arises: which has the most relevant content? I've seen many mention that Kfind (or find or grep-R) does a better job (though not for PDFs) and that is so for me for everything else. I've seen mention that the KDE development is drifting from user needs. I'm not sure it is; what I do and what I see in other parts of the system, is that things are getting too heavily linked. The architecture is bound rather than pluggable. Many packages drag in other packages that you don't want, aren't going to use, even when the low level code bindings aren't there. I realise that the semantic desktop is only a small part of KDE. I like the rest: plasma, the multitudes of improvements and new features made to the various individual applications. I like being able to show multiple folders on my desktop, and I like the changes to the widget framework. Is there no way I can decouple this? Why do I have to have all this stuff I'm not going to use? What has happened to my ability to pick and choose? And NO I DON"T WANT TO USE GNOME! -- "I think there is a world market for about five computers." Thomas J. Watson, chairman of the board of IBM, 1943 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org