-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2007-11-26 at 15:20 +0100, Stefan Hundhammer wrote:
After reading so many dozens of utterly off-topic posts in the first thread I gave up.
Sorry. Perhaps your wording the first time was not clear enough, and perhaps if you had posted on a weekday, you could have seen how we were straying and steer the discussion back on track.
http://en.opensuse.org/Image:YaST_Control_Center.png
And THIS is what we want to change. THIS is what we want a radical new approach (or, at minimum, a radical new look).
Well, I find the present look is just fine, no need to change it! :-P
We identified a number of problems with that old control center:
(1) There are too many icons in there - way more that can easily be navigated.
(2) The groups don't always match users' expectations. (E.g., is firewall more related to security or to network?)
Both! Put the icon in both places - uh, oh, but that adds clutter :-) I don't really care about the icons, they are just eye candy. As far as I'm concerned, text entries would be just as fine. But I understand others think different, so they'll come with ideas.
(3) It's hard for newbies to figure out what does what.
(3a) Sometimes it's hard to figure out the difference between modules.
True.
(4) It's often enough hard for expert to find things.
True as well. What about a help tip on mouse hover? Or a help panel. Even a small FAQ with links that highlight the appropriate module (not activating it).
(5) It's not exactly pretty.
No, I don't agree: I like it as it is. It is familiar.
Maybe there is a different way than just placing a lot of icons in a window (with or without groups) and let the user figure out how to deal with it. Carefully taking care, of course, of all kinds of users, newbies as well as experts.
What about a main menu with a selector for "beginner/expert/master of the universe"? Some programs do that.
This is what that was all about. This is what we ask your opinions for.
Thanks for asking :-) I would certainly appreciate a help panel or equivalent explaining what each module is for, or what module we need in order to do something, even if the module is not installed yet. A small FAQ, perhaps. Automatic links to the magnific suse reference book (in html now), which open on the appropiate topic that a certain module is about - kind of RTFM, eh? And I would also appreciate if all yast interfaces (qt, gtk, ncurses) had the same functionality, behaviour, and approximate look. I understand you only ask about qt interface now, but nevertheless, please consider that. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFHSvFRtTMYHG2NR9URAiJuAJ0druwR6xVs8KZ0LIhhLcK+NS/N1gCfUEMc aI+b0WBHIXMkzGkVCyasV7Y= =WFwP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org