On 01/15/2013 09:12 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 15/01/13 21:26, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2013-01-15 05:41, George Olson wrote:
I have 4 IMAP email accounts, and for some reason Thunderbird has only 2 of them with corresponding folders listed under "Archives".
Remember that gmail accounts are different. With a normal ISP when you fetch an email it disapears. With gmail they are archived instead. Thus you can have thousands of archived emails.
Are you absolutely sure about this? There is a setting in Account Settings>Server where you can select to either delete the mail or leave it on the server. And if you leave it on the server at gmail you then come up against gmail's internal settings whereby mail is deleted either after a certain period or when you hit your max allocated disc space (?10 GB?).
BC
From Google help at http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=32608 : ---------------- If you're positive you won't need a message again, use the Delete button to send it to Trash.* Deleting unimportant mail is a great way to free up some of your storage, but with Gmail's free storage, you can probably keep those messages, too! If it's possible that you'll need a message or conversation in the future, we recommend archiving. Archiving mail moves messages out of your inbox and into your "All Mail" label for safekeeping-- you won't be bothered with extra messages cluttering your inbox, but you'll still be able to find a message if you need it six years from now! *Deleted messages and conversations are permanently removed from Gmail 30 days after you send them to Trash. ----------------- However, I just deleted hundreds of messages out of various subfolders in Thunderbird. The strange thing was, any message that I deleted which were relatively new, those messages were also deleted from the archive folder. I used 2 processes to delete the messages. One was by setting a retention policy on each individual folder - those were automatically deleted from TB. The other was by simply selecting the messages and deleting them. I think the way it works as I am reading your messages and reading up on things is that every email that comes into gmail goes to the "all mail" folder, which is also the archive folder. Then it gets a label as "inbox" but is not actually placed in a separate folder on the server - it just gets the label. If it is moved to another folder, it is simply given a replacement label (unless a copy is made in which it gets 2 labels). So perhaps when TB automatically deleted old emails in folders based on my retention policy, all that was sent up to the server was a scratching off of the label; hence, those emails all remain in the archive folder. However, when I manually selected and hit "delete", perhaps this actually moved these emails to the trash folder, in which case they are gone as soon as the trash is emptied. This would also explain why something in archives (all mail) that is manually deleted is also deleted in the separate folder (like SCD) where I store it for my records. There were not 2 copies of the email, only 1 with an extra label for the subfolder. (Of course, my subfolders are stored for offline use while the archives are not, so that means there are actually 2 copies in existence.) Does that sound right? If so, then it puts a bit of a difficulty into the long term management of these emails with TB. Because using the retention policy to delete all but the most recent 200 emails in a given folder (for example) is very helpful for managing and not having to go through every 3 months and delete thousands of emails manually. But I also want those emails cleared off the server entirely, not just have their labels scratched off so they remain in the all mail archive folder on the server. The end result of google's way of doing things is that in 2 or 3 years when the archive box is filled up, it will be quite difficult to go through and select the hundreds of thousands of emails that are actually unwanted from the folder, but retain all the ones that I made the effort to store separately so that they could be kept forever. Should this be a feature request in TB, that in the retention policy it actually deletes the emails the same as if you hit the delete key? or am I misreading the whole thing? -- George Olson Box #1: 12.2 | KDE 4.9.2 | AMD Phenom IIX4 | 64 | ATI Radeon HD 3300 | 16GB Box #2: 12.2 | KDE 4.9.1 | AMD Athlon X3 | 64 | nVidia C61 GeForce 7025 | 4GB Laptop: 12.2 | KDE 4.9.2 | Core i7-2620M | 64 | Intel HD Graphics 3000 | 8GB learning openSUSE and loving it -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org