On Thursday 01 April 2004 11:23 am, John Pettigrew wrote: [...]
Not cursor problems of that sort - it just doesn't behave in a standard fashion (e.g. Shift-cursors don't extend/reduce the selection, cursor position and selection position seem to be independent [select text, move cursor with arrow keys and then type something - you replace the selection rather than inserting text at the cursor]). This is running the Scribus 1.1.5 from Packman, so it ought to be a good build.
Also, the text positioning seems to be poor here (running within Gnome or KDE) - the cursor isn't positioned correctly WRT character positions, and text overlaps objects lying on top of the frame instead of wrapping round it properly. ============ Sounds like you are looking for wordprocessing functions in a page layout program. They are not the same and shouldn't be mistaken for such. I mentioned the slowness you spoke of to the developers and they ask me if you were still using a 486 type PC! ;o)
If you are experiencing the amount of drag in the program you seem to be, I suspect there are some things not quite right in your system. Really, Scribus is not exhibiting that on my system or others on the list & IRC. Most were fairly amazed when I brought it up today. ---------------
Oh, and the other thing I couldn't find was wrap control (setting the offset for wrapping round objects and also the wrap method [one side/both sides/neither side etc.]). Have I missed this somewhere?
Basically, it is heading in the right direction but isn't anywhere near professional standard yet. =============
It's there, wrap around a graphic or other object, offset spacing, etc. It's just you don't know the program well enough to fully use it yet. And as far as professional standard, I think many of the professionals on the mail list using the program might disagree. The developers themselves are printers, page layout guys, so they have an idea what it will do with daily testing. Plus many on the list are school systems converting to it and many are past Quark, Pagemaker, PageStream, & Indesign users for many years, that are using it daily now. I think that might qualify it for "professional" use & quality. YMMV, of course, since you are not a daily user or layout person by trade. --------------------
The text could also be a QT problem and the Story Editor (builtin text editor) is probably what you are not finding for text
I've tried that (hate it, BTW - in-place editing is far nicer) and you lose any undo history when leaving the story editor and returning to the main document. ==========
I'll be honest, coming from using PageStream and Pagemaker, I was determined to not like Scribus either when first using/viewing it! I thought the direct typing on the page (in-place editing) was much nicer also, but upon using it a couple of months, I find Scribus much better to work with now and no matter how hard I tried, I couldn't dislike it! It reminds me of Ventura Publisher from the older IBM days & Professional Page & City Desk, also from the Amiga. Stick with it, it'll grow on you too and stop by the IRC for any questions or help. ------------- [...]
I may do now that it seems to be approaching usability for me - next time I need to do some layout and have spare time for playing, I'll try Scribus instead of using a different (non-MS) OS...
John ============
Please do, all the professionals there are quite nice and very helpful. Of course, anytime you can make a dent in the Redmond robot's armour, it's a good thing. ;o) Lee -- --- KMail v1.6.1 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.0 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange...