And as I sit here with a machine at work running a Pentium 4 @ 2.4Ghz ,1.5GB memory, ATI Radeon X1650 with dual monitors, and Suse 11.1 with both 3.5.10 and 4.3 from factory. The 3.5 runs everything very well Kpilot syncs fine, I have 3D graphics with glxgears running at 2460 fps. When I run 4.3 it takes 4minutes to boot from the login screen, then the screen will freeze randomly about every 5 to 40 minutes for about 1 minute to 4 minutes or sometimes I have to reboot. If I play videos from youtube the video will shudder several times and if I play full screen it will shudder and then lock up every time requiring a complete reboot. About 25% of the time when I left click on the mouse, on any document, icon or screen the cursor will jump about 5 mm selecting something else or nothing, you can do this repeatedly( ten -twenty times) until it finally works or until I move far enough down so that I hit the right spot. There is no Kpilot and kdepim reports there won't be so no syncing my palm pilot. I have a Toshiba laptop with a ATI 1700 graphics chip that the mouse does the same thing on. They both seem to run a lot slower. The laptop I installed with just 4.3 adding 3.5 a month later it did not seem to slow it down anymore that it already was, from comparing it to just 3.5 on 11.0. I have been really trying to like 4.3 but it is really getting in my way of doing some meaningful work. -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; In practice, there is Robert Cunningham Sr. Physics Laboratory Coordinator /RSO -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org