John E. Perry wrote:
Fred A. Miller wrote:
Ah.....so if a programmer doesn't use a given setup feature, for example, then most users don't, eh? 'NOT any logic in that my friend.
Come on, Fred. Free OSS is provided by people and organizations -- it doesn't just come. Resources have to be expended, money has to be spent, or at least someone has to do the work.
If the organization has no need for it, and no developer is interested in it, why shouldn't they ask for someone to express support for it?
For example,
Look, if it wasn't a "standard" feature that a LOT of users depend on, it wouldn't have been put into KDE a long time ago. MickySoft isn't so ignorant that they don't know that it's very much used and it's in VIST and even current code of 'Bloze 7.
Interesting, 4.0 was released without the ability to hide the task bar. Work wasn't started on added that until I pursued it.
I've never used it at all. The KDE taskbar is too useful to do without, and it takes up little enough space that I'd rather keep it visible than have to go digging for it. If I were a KDE developer, I'd blow off totally the ability to hide it. If I were a manager having to allocate programming resources, I'd demand that my resources be used in justifiable projects. I can't justify it myself; before I allocate resources, I'll ask for evidence that some significant fraction of my users do want it and will use it. That means you and other users will have to tell me you want it.
Blow it off totally.....now that WOULD be ignorant!!
Amazing...a
feature of KDE for a LONG time, and VERY much used feature (common sense dictates you gain real estate on the desktop) and it wasn't included in 4.0. No wonder we're missing features.
I've never seen anyone use it under kde (ok, I presently only interact with half a dozen or so linux users). I haven't even seen many people use it under Windows, whose taskbar is really of very little use compared to kde's, and whose disappearance would cause no discomfort at all.
You live and work in a very limited world, John. 'NOT a criticism, but just making you realize that it's not the real world of users many of us know. You should visit any large graphic arts shop sometime, for example. ;) I often work on VERY LARGE images in Gimp or Bibble Pro and want all the real estate I can get on my monitor. If on a laptop, it's even more of a mandate.
_You're_ missing features. Express _your_ preference for those features in the proper forums, in a proper manner, and if enough others express that support, someone will allocate the resources needed to get it done.
Stop whining and cooperate with the people who are doing the work.
I've made it as simple as it can be John....can't do anymore than that! Fred -- "Politicians and diapers need to be changed regularly -- and for the same reason." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org