One of the reasons I've permanently switched from Red Hat (which I've used daily since 7.1) is the embedded support for mp3s. I got tired of loading the mp3 rpms every time there was a new release. SuSE 9.1 also happens to run really nicely on my notebook, but this crippled Xine is even worse than what RH did with XMMS - at I could download a rpm to get it running. I've tried getting libdvdcss to run under both Fedora and S.u.S.E. and the Fedora procedure was much simpler because of the uncrippled Xine. The Pacman resource is a great one, but some of the packages that particular version depends on seem to be dated (curl) and conflict with other packages. It seems strange that Novell would crippled Xine, yet include support for mp3s. I wish DVD manufacturers would get their heads out of the sand and start looking at a more open paradigm - imagine the advances possible.