-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, 2017-10-28 at 19:57 +0200, Richard Brown wrote:
On 28 October 2017 at 18:15, Anton Aylward
wrote: On 28/10/17 11:49 AM, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
Perhaps the best way to remove the negativity on this list is to have it moderated like the forums are.
Indeed. I'm sure 'moderation' is a good thing, but I am sceptical about 'moderators'. After all, they are human with human foibles.
What one might view as 'negative criticism' another might view as someone finding a valid problem that is taking to long to address, or, like the recent clarification about bugs being classified as needing fixes from the upstream maintainers rather than the openSUSE teams.
It is too common the see 'criticisms' as being 'negative'.
Generally speaking (there are bounds of reason/tone/decency/respect), I often do not have a problem with either critical nor negative speech, when the outcome of that speech is something positive for openSUSE.
We're volunteers, we're passionate about what we do here, we can't be expected to always approach the project with happy happy joy joy feelings. But the focus should be on respecting all involved & accomplishing a positive goal on the end.
But that generally means I feel any negative talk or critique on _this_ list is pointless.
Because there are so few contributors listening here, there will be no actions resulting from such discussions.
I see that as the fault of those contributors, not as the fault of the participants on the list. It looks to me as if they prefer an ivory tower, IMO, and hear nothing about reality. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAln15f8ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UQnQCdEgKLPJor6k/69HIbvcH6elH2 t3kAoI/gDuPWly2aiTTiym2deHrTA1I/ =1ip5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org