On Saturday, April 09, 2011 03:08:27 PM C C <smaug42@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 11:21, Mark Goldstein wrote:
I did not try beta, but official 4.0. Both in MS Win and in Linux these 2 buttons were not where C. described, and appeared BETWEEN address and search fields when I tried to "customize".
Sigh.. everything you're looking for is there in a default Firefox4 configuration... as in before you start farting around and changing the UI layout.
Groan... When I wrote my original query, I had not been "farting around and changing the UI layout". In fact, I had changed nothing save the behavior of the Backspace key. I also had no difficulty in seeing the status bar. The UI was essentially in its default state. I had searched all the toolbars for a Refresh icon but found none. Refresh should be an easy one to find, because it is always very intuitive, opposing arrowheads in a circle. I am sure that it was simply not there. I also searched the Customize window for a Refresh icon, ,but found none; it is possible to argue that I should have seen it where Mark later pointed it out, but by then I had already written off the toolbars, and had no expectation of finding anything new on them. Nobody, in the meantime has commented on the apparent death of keys Home, End, PgUp and PgDn. In the past, these have been very useful for me in navigating over a page. Yes, there are other ways (plural) to do the same actions. But I cannot believe that developers would eliminate these keys for now reason without supplying a configuration option as in the case of the Backspace key. Do I overestimate the design team? It's worse than that, actually: Pressing the Up arrow causes the same action that Home used to do, instead of just moving up one line. A terrible hash has been made of these keys, for no apparent reason at all. I would be delighted to be corrected. I hope somebody will do that.
Load up a DEFAULT Firefox 4 configuration in Windows or Linux.. it doesn't matter... the layout is identical. The Refresh and Stop button are combined into one object, and if the browser is idle, the button is greyed out and looks like a small Reload button (circle arrow). The button position is at the far right of the URL bar... if you're looking at the ULR bar, then to the left there is a Star, a down pointing arrow, and then the Stop/Refresh combo button (as part of the end of the URL bar) followed by the Search field.
The status bar is also still there... The page loading information and link hover information hidden unless there is something to display. If it has something to show, it'll pop up that info at the bottom left of the browser window (eg hover over a link and the link destination will be shown in a popup tooltip at the bottom left of the browser window). Some add-ons and browser applications used the former Status bar to provide information as well. These are now moved to the Add-on bar. If there are no add-ons that use this bar, then the bar is hidden by default. If you install an add-on such as AdBlock Pro, then the Add-on bar is shown at the bottom of your browser with the AdBlock information contained within.
This is the SAME regardless of using Linux, Windows or whatever.
Visually the only noticeable difference between Firefox4 on Linux and Firefox 4 on Windows is the tabs and menu bar configuration. The menu bar is shown by default in Linux, but you can turn it off and you get the same layout style then as in Windows. The tabs in Windows are slightly higher than in Linux (ie they extend up into the Title bar area in Windows).
If you don't like the new layout, then you can change it. When you go into Toolbar layout, the Stop and Refresh button are shown are two colored buttons next to each other. If you drag them BOTH elsewhere... say to the left next to the Back and Forward buttons, then close the Customization window, they are again combined into ONE button. They only remain separate buttons if they are NOT placed next to each other on the bat.
That is not accurate. I now have the two buttons adjacent to each other, with Stop on the left. In the opposite order, Stop disappears. No doubt there is a good reason for this difference, and the Good Lord knows what it is.
The short of this is, in a default configuration, the buttons are not missing, the Firefox designers did not remove them or the status bar, they simply changed how the UI is configured. All the buttons are still there, and all the information that the status bar displayed is still there.
C.
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