Re: [opensuse] video players and error recovery

On 30/09/2018 07.29, Dave Howorth wrote:

On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 22:19:25 -0400 "Carlos E. R." wrote:

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On 29/09/2018 14.58, Dave Howorth wrote:

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On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 12:28:44 -0400 "Carlos E. R." wrote:

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On 29/09/2018 12.11, Dave Howorth wrote:

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I bought a TV card recently and consequently have become more interested in the capabilities of video players than I was.

By default I have tended to use VLC because I like it's interface and it's capability to play videos at faster than normal speeds whilst still producing intelligible audio (good for watching documentaries, I find).

Oh, I'm interested in that. How do you trigger that behaviour?

I just press the faster/slower buttons. Up to 4x faster, it still includes audio; above that it is silent.

Oh. No, I thought it could change the speed a tiny percent, like going 1% faster or so. MythTV could do that.

I've no idea whether vlc has that capability. What is the point?

That I interpreted you saying "play videos at faster than normal speeds whilst still producing intelligible audio" meant that it could reproduce just slightly faster as mythtv does, and I am interested in having that feature. :-) Playing a video a 2X does not interest me. I only use that to locate a section, sound usually muted. Now I know that your usage is different. :-)

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I've also now noticed that I have totem from the openSUSE OSS repository (Leap 15.0; totem 3.26.0) whilst my VLC comes from packman (3.0.2). So can anybody who understands these things explain why I apparently need to get VLC from packman whilst openSUSE can supply totem and packman don't seem to need to provide a de-crippled version? (whatever crippled means in this context - why do packman need to supply VLC?)

Because totem uses an "engine" that is already installed.

But vlc does not?

Mostly it uses its own engine, I understand. Do "rpm -qR vlc" and you will see.

Sorry, I'm not sure what or why I'm looking at there.

That in mine I do not see gstreamer.

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Legolas:~ # rpm -qR totem /sbin/ldconfig /sbin/ldconfig gstreamer-plugins-base gstreamer-plugins-good ...

It is using gstreamer, and parts or all of this may come from Packman.

Well, gstreamer itself and both gstreamer-plugins-base and gstreamer-plugins-good are only available from openSUSE according to YaST. I agree there are some plugins that are available from packman: gstreamer-plugins-bad, gstreamer-plugins-av and gstreamer-plugins-ugly

Those are the "requires", plugins are not "required". Also requiring to install things from packman when some people or organizations may have doubts about legality maybe is not the right thing to do. You may choose to buy the other gstreamer stack.

I don't have problems about installing things from packman. But I'm by no means sure now that gstreamer is the source of the error-handling differences I'm seeing.

No, I never said it was. I only replied to this paragraph: ]> I've also now noticed that I have totem from the openSUSE OSS ]> repository (Leap 15.0; totem 3.26.0) whilst my VLC comes from packman ]> (3.0.2). So can anybody who understands these things explain why I ]> apparently need to get VLC from packman whilst openSUSE can supply ]> totem and packman don't seem to need to provide a de-crippled version? ]> (whatever crippled means in this context - why do packman need to ]> supply VLC?) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.0 (Legolas))