We discussed that in the office (heavy Java development) just a couple of days ago, at least so far it seems that Oracle is going for software they inherited from BEA, what they could salvage off JRockit. See this readme: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/terms/license/index.html it refers to table 1-1 in the following doc: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/terms/products/index.html Those are not generally available tools as far as I can see, it is possible that someone could install them out of ignorance or by mistake, or maybe if you are using only some parts and they come as big download bundle. But normal JDK/JRE even for windows should not be affected as far as I understand. Haven't looked into JavaFX though, don't see any point in it. As for openSUSE, OpenJDK builds are not affected, and binary redistribution is already forbidden by Oracle, so this should not be a problem. On 5 January 2017 at 16:18, ArnoB <opensuse@rgbaz.eu> wrote:
On 05-01-17 15:50, Christopher Myers wrote:
ArnoB <opensuse@rgbaz.eu> 01/05/17 8:31 AM >>> Why do you think Tomcat is a computer/server? Tomcat uses Java that runs on a system, not the other way around... or am I not getting it?
My concern is that since Tomcat (and other purpose-built servers) aren't servers "used for general computing functions under end user control (such as but not specifically limited to email, general purpose Internet browsing, and office suite productivity tools)."
So it sounds like the clause "are excluded from this definition and not licensed under this Agreement" will apply to them -- "this agreement" being the "install and use it for free" part.
Chris
But ehm, Tomcat is software and I think they're talking about hardware...?
From how I read it, it's more of them talking about where it's installed and what it's used for, hence the "used for general computing functions under end user control (such as but not specifically limited to email, general purpose Internet browsing, and office suite productivity tools)." part.
So, Tomcat (or Jira, or whatever) installed on an application server isn't the same thing as me putting Java on my laptop -- my use of Java on my laptop would be for normal desktop-type stuff, while Tomcat's use of Java on a server would not be.
Hi Chris,
I'm sorry but I really think you're mixing things up here...
Oracle is talking about Java (JVM) and it's tools like JDK etc. They say on which hardware you can run them, desktops, laptops or servers. Tomcat runs in the JVM, so it's at a level that Oracle has nothing to say about unless they want to preventing their software being used at all.
HIGH MID LOW Tomcat -> JVM -> Hardware & OS Apache Oracle Win/*nix
As far as I read it, I'm not a lawyer, they're talking about the options for MID -> LOW.
Tomcat is server-SOFTWARE, a general purpose server is server-HARDWARE.
In any case, you can always choose OpenJDK etc...
gr arno
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