On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 08:31, Robert Jacobsen wrote:
Java is a big success, so who cares if Microsoft includes it in their products anyway?
One thing to note is that this wasn't originally about Microsoft including it in their products. It was about M$ taking Sun's open-source Java license, modifying it to the point of which it has several uncompatable features, then closing the source and making it proprietary. Only after the lawsuit did Microsoft claim they were going to stop including Java after win2k, in order to spite Sun for suing them. Developers today want tools that aren't 15 years old. <snip>
This is not rocket science. Sun is not giving developers what they want and it appears they really don't know how to do it!
While I do see your point (the only decent one I know of is Forte, also), I thought that I might add that most people I know don't use Java because it is an extremely slooooow programming language, albeit a very well structured one. just my 2¢, -jeric -- JericAtSbcglobalDotNetwork 11:42am up 19 days, 3:31, 8 users, load average: 0.13, 0.18, 0.10