houghi schrieb:
On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 12:53:22AM +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I still think that users opinions are important here. Notice that the view some people express that linux is designed by developers and for developers only could become too true.
Users opinions are important. However it is the developers that make and add the licences, so when you are talking licences, that is the viuwpoint you need to take. This so you can respect the user who wants a 100% OSS system.
Sorry, but I did not meet a single user (and I cared and care for just a bunch of them) who was interested in an 100% OSS system. Only developpers are talking about this; and yes, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger is also one of those kernel devs, so he doesn't count as user anymore. ;-) Users however care for usability. As a result of this thread, Juergen Weigert cleared the state of the 6th CD, so the pine question got a clear answer. Which was a quite easy one, as in this case there is no contradiction between usability and licenses. But I could very well imagine different cases (the discussions in earlier times about the freedom of KDE comes to mind, before QT was GPL). So, I just want to give all the SUSE people sourrounded by developpers, GPL, and kernel policy enthusiasts a short reminder to not forget about the goal stated for SUSE "We work together to create and distribute the world's most usable Linux.": I.e. IMHO, if there is a gap between licenses and usability, please choose the latter one, because therefore many users chose SUSE. Ciao Siegbert