27 Aug
2005
27 Aug
'05
14:44
Pascal Bleser schrieb: > [...] > >Now don't ask me why their SF project page states "GPL" as the license. That's definately wrong. > > pascal, that was the point I realy wantet to ... hmm, I think I have to learn a better english for writing to get these things I have in mind in a clear fashing to the text. > > >>>>>If there would be a closed source to be installed, so be it. (as long as >>>>>it is legal). >>>>> >>>>> >Depends. It really depends on what it is. >Using/shipping/including closed source software gives a very long trail of issues, e.g.: >- - don't use closed source key components (e.g. libraries) others depend on > > I think a "simple decoder", made as a plug-in for example mplayer, xine, [...] as they are out already is nothing where other stuff has to to depends on. other tools can use it - but not the other way. (not in an official release of opeSUSE, to say it a bit more clear). >- - different limitations apply to their redistribution, as well for Novell/SUSE as for individuals >(e.g. putting ISOs on the web, P2P, ...) > > thats something what I think about the last days. for example: my boxed 9.3 pro I can freely copy as often I like and give it away as often I like as long I don't get money for it, bundle it with hardware etc. etc. I think thats another point why it is a complex situation for Novell. >- - non-OpenSource licenses (like GPL, LGPL, BSD, ASL, MPL, EPL, MIT-X, etc...) must be handled with >great care, because they always have their own text and must be read thouroughly to make sure you're >not breaking its rules > > thats right & importend. and something that is in (my) mind all the time !! >Don't underestimate the implications the use and inclusion of closed source software has. > >Now, that being said, I'm not a GPL zealot either and in certain cases, closed source software might >be ok. If that's the only option for having an easy to install&use, fully working DVD player on >Linux, then be it. > > > ;) also my point of view ! >>>>ok - that deepends on the look of view of every user himself. there are out >>>>a lot of people who *never* would mix a OSS-system with closed software, >>>>and some say "uh - why not". how mutch software has to be OSS, and how >>>>mutch software could be closed software, so the hole system is still OSS ? >>>>I don't know. >>>> >>>> >>>That is their good right. You will never be forced to install the >>>software. >>> >>> >>if you like to hear MP3 and watch DVD+CSS and you want to be >>on the legal side of life - you have to install it. >> >> > >Again, don't confuse MP3 and DVD/CSS. MP3 can be redistributed as long as it's redistributed freely >(there was a prior post about that in this thread). > > for the MP3-part: as it is so simple - why it is a so long story for SUSE ? as I've read in a lot of threads in other forums the situation with the boxed verisons of SUSE linux is a little bit older than I know. why they didn't lost that knock already ? and again for the boxev-version-part: as I've written alreday - I'm willing to pay for it - even if the charge will be a litle more then now. but if the boxed version is again without any stuff that fids my (multimedi)needs - why I should buy it again ? hmm, only to support Novell to kepping openSUSE going on ? a good reason [!!!] - but it shouldn't be the only one for me. and for now I will end my work here, and in the evening go to the cinema :) best regards, JBScout