-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 jdd wrote:
Would be nice if you could tell ksmarttray to update certain channels (most notably ~/suse/update/10.1 of course) when checking for updates.
and probably using different words for similar thinbgs add to the mess.
what are those channels? I already had problem undersdtanding what are the different inst-source (not even trying to know what are the different metadata systems)
The generic and most appropriate term is "repository". Well, the repository is on the server-side, for example: 1) http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-guru/rpm/10.1 2) http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-guru/rpm/10.1/RPMS 3) http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/10.1-i386 (1) is a yast2 repository (2) is an RPM-MD (/repomd/yum, see below) repository (3) is an APT-RPM repository The following terms are used by different package managers and are all _references to repositories_. Such references usually contain information such as - - the base URL, where to retrieve the metadata and the packages - - a name but also additional information, depending on what the package manager is capable of handling. - - YaST2 calls them "installation sources" - - ZMD/rug calls them "catalogs" - - smart calls them "channels" (AFAICR, Red Carpet calls them "channels" as well) - - apt-rpm calls them "sources" - - yum calls them "repos" (repositories) but they're all the same thing: references to package repositories ;) Package repositories are made of "metadata". That metadata contains various information about the RPM packages that are available in a repository, such as: - - package name, version, release, target architecture, distribution - - summary, description, license, project website - - what it requires - - what it provides, and the list of files contained in the package That metadata information is needed by package managers like libzypp, ZMD/rug, apt-rpm, smart, yum, ... to be able to compute how to perform package installations, upgrades, removals (the requires/provides information is particularly important here). There are different metadata formats: - - RPM-MD (RPM-MetaData), also called "repomd" (Repository MetaData), also called "yum" (because its the native format for the yum package manager) - - yast2 - - apt-rpm (for RPM) and apt-deb (for DEB) - - Red Carpet (also called Open Carpet) - - RPM-HDL (RPM Header List) - - URPMI (for Mandriva's package manager) - - slack, for Slackware's "package manager" and maybe a few others. So, unfortunately, there's more or less a metadata format for every single package manager. It seems the NiH (*) syndrom has spread a lot amongst package manager developers ;) (*) "Not invented Here" Nowadays, most package managers seem to head for RPM-MD support, which is more or less becoming a standard: - - YaST2 supports it in SUSE Linux 10.0 - - libzypp supports it in SUSE Linux 10.1 - - yum supports it, obviously, it's the yum-specific format ;) - - apt-rpm supports it too, since one or two releases (not the version shipped with SUSE Linux 10.1 though) - - smart supports it, of course ;) (more information about that below) RPM-MD is represented in XML - actually, the repository metadata is stored in gzipped XML files, in a "repodata" subdirectory on the server (*), with the following files: - - repomd.xml: main repository file, very small, contains references to the others, as well as checksums and timestamps - - primary.xml.gz: contains the most important information: list of packages (with version, release, architecture), what it requires, size of the package, summary, description, etc.... - - filelists.xml.gz: contains the list of files that are included in the packages - - other.xml.gz: not used by all package managers, it contains the changelog information of every package (*) for an example: http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-guru/rpm/10.1/RPMS/repodata/ Read here for more information on RPM-MD: http://linux.duke.edu/projects/metadata/ smart is a notable exception, because it supports *all* of the formats above (and it has no smart-specific format). When you add a smart "channel" (repository information), here are the types you can use (excerpt from "smart channel --help"): apt-deb - APT-DEB Repository apt-rpm - APT-RPM Repository deb-dir - DEB Directory red-carpet - Red Carpet Channel rpm-dir - RPM Directory rpm-hdl - RPM Header List rpm-md - RPM MetaData slack-site - Slackware Repository up2date-mirrors - Mirror Information (up2date format) urpmi - URPMI Repository yast2 - YaST2 Repository (note, I removed the *-sys channels, they represent the packages currently installed in the RPM database (or DEB database on Debian, etc...)) And yes, you can even mix them. In my list of channels for smart, I mix yast2, rpm-md and apt-rpm repositories. smart is even independent of the package subsystem, as it works for RPM (SUSE/Redhat/Fedora/Mandriva), Deb (Debian/Ubuntu) and Slackware. So you could install a .deb Debian/Ubuntu package on SUSE Linux with smart, but it wouldn't make any sense because it would be stored in a DEB package database... that knows nothing about the RPM database, etc... (so that usage is pretty pointless, and not the goal of smart anyway). Actually it's interesting because you can use smart (unmodified) on RPM, Deb and Slackware based distributions.
many things need to be simplified
Yes, or explained.
Hope this helps.
cheers
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