More on the subject On my previous machine (Riva TNT) kdm had this behaviour, once I logged in to KDE I could switch to console, once I logged out I couldn't On my current machine (Geforce 2 MX) the same things happen, so I quess the workarounds mentioned on NVdrivers documentations aren't worthy on the current subject, I 'd tried every possible combination on them. Q3A works fine for me with the latest Nvidia Drivers, though any of you having problems will might consider to use switch2nvglx (a script found on SuSE 7.1). Another strange fact is that I couldn't get NVagp to work with my VIA chipset, so I used kernel's agpgart module for this task. ________________________________________________________________ Yanzae Zaeko Madman out of this World ________________________________________________________________