9.0 looks ok to me but no modem sound and the flash thingee just sits there till I click it again to go away. I tried several different ones and am now back to the one that came with the machine. Its a 2x2 inch board that goes into its own special slot. What is that? I see that dev/modem is linked to ttyS0. These things show up on the bottom of the ps ax: 2294 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/smpppd-ifcfg --ifcfg=ifcfg-ppp0 --provider=provider0 2295 ttyS0 S 0:00 /usr/sbin/pppd /dev/ttyS0 57600 logfd 10 call ppp connect /usr/bin/wvdial --c 2296 ttyS0 S 0:00 /usr/bin/wvdial --chat --no-syslog --config /var/run/smpppd/wvdial-ppp0.conf I also tried plugging in an external modem which is working with little or no intervention on another Suse 9.0 machine.(no joy) Minicom is not installed. Rather not if I dont have to. Should I be looking in the bios for anything? Meanwhile I'll keep looking around. - Thanks ellie@wam.umd.edu ~