On Wednesday 02 Sep 2009 03:59:06 David Haller wrote:
Hello,
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Peter Nikolic wrote: [KDE]
the old method worked well whay hide things in silly out of the way places like that stupid peanut device tucked away in the top corner and then it is not visable all the time one of the beautys of Linux was the absolute total configurablatiy of the system it is now heading towards the windBloWs this is what you got shut up and use it method
Well, actually, it's KDE and/or Gnome heading that way. Guess why I use neither (KDE not since 1.1.2, Gnome never really). And, if you look to the past, there's a distinct pattern to KDE usability.
KDE 1: useful with 1.1.2 KDE 2: useful with 2.x.y # x >=2? >=3? haven't followed that much KDE 3: useful with 3.x.y # x >= 3? probably >= 4 or even 3.5 ... KDE 4: my guess is it'll be 4.5 or later
Generally: the last minor version before the next major works best by far (e.g. 1.1.2, IIRC the last 2.x before 3.0 was released, 3.5).
So, yes, you are quite right about KDE, but wrong about Linux, and you chose your (desktop) poison yourself.
Oh, and don't get me wrong, there are very nice KDE apps, which I even use. E.g. 1.1.2 kmix and various games on my old box, current k3b and other stuff on the new box ... Esp. k3b is quite an improvement over the plethora of somewhat-working-in-special-ways (and all failing in plenty fundamental, sometimes "creative" ways) mkisofs/cdreoord- frontend programs that came with KDE1 and 2 (IIRC). I still got a bunch of those on my old system. Some names, to jog your memory: kreatecd, kcdwrite, keasycd, kisocd and that's just the KDE1 stuff ;)
Some of that was as you say total PITA but i have one box here tis one in fact that K3B refuses to burn DVDISO's it does not even list them (it now plays DVD's and all multimedia no problem
So, what you are experiencing, is nothing new. Or unexpected. IMHO.
-dnh, using WindowMaker, which is very configurable, partly via a GUI, very much via config files and ultimatively via the rather smallish source code and/or compilation-time defines.
In many ways oi much preferred the old OLVWM system i had that setup a treat but last i looked it's a no hope'er now which is a shame it blew the living horse dung out of Gimp it has to be said but then along came KDE , then along came KDE4.x.x and hummmmmmmmmmmmm well it got screwed big time (admitted certain things are showing the begginings of sanity but still way way off the mark) we will see what transpires will not be as good as 3.5.9 was i can bet Pete .