CommunityWeek - Testing/QA Slot
Hi everybody, I'm sure you already heared about the openSUSE CommunityWeek (http://en.opensuse.org/CommunityWeek) from May 11 to 17. During that week there will be a Testing/QA slot (http://en.opensuse.org/CommunityWeek#Testing.2FQA) where I volunteered to take over the responsibility. Currently the following items are suggested: * How to get started with testing * From test case to bug report - what's necessary to know? I would be glad to hear your idea and wishes. Furthermore this should not be an "one man show". So I would be very happy for other members of this list to take over items of this slot. Looking forward to your input. Best wishes, Holgi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help@opensuse.org
Hi Holger, sorry for my silence. I didn't disappear :-) I've been a bit busy at work. I pasted your invitation on local Italian forums too, so that the interested people can easily read it and, I hope, answer. I'll be away for a few days due to work travel, then I will work a bit on the wiki. Best, Alberto -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help@opensuse.org
Hi, I spread the news about the community week and the testing team idea as much as I could. At the moment the number of volunteers (excluding me, Holger and Tilman) is _ZERO_. I received some positive feedback on the idea in local forums, however it seems that the resistance of users to participate is very high, for various reasons (no time, no will, no experience, no will to learn, someone doesn't like the environment, others don't believe they can actually make a difference, and so on...) In conclusion, at the moment it seems the idea of creating a stable, community-based, testing team is not feasible. We'll see however if someone shows up at the community week. On my side, I'm oriented to dedicate my efforts to other projects, more related to my activity. I hope someone else will try again, and succeed in making this idea reality. Good luck. Best, Alberto Il giorno dom, 19/04/2009 alle 22.21 -0500, Alberto Passalacqua ha scritto:
Hi Holger,
sorry for my silence. I didn't disappear :-) I've been a bit busy at work.
I pasted your invitation on local Italian forums too, so that the interested people can easily read it and, I hope, answer.
I'll be away for a few days due to work travel, then I will work a bit on the wiki.
Best, Alberto
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Alberto Passalacqua wrote:
Hi,
I spread the news about the community week and the testing team idea as much as I could.
At the moment the number of volunteers (excluding me, Holger and Tilman) is _ZERO_. I received some positive feedback on the idea in local forums, however it seems that the resistance of users to participate is very high, for various reasons (no time, no will, no experience, no will to learn, someone doesn't like the environment, others don't believe they can actually make a difference, and so on...)
I suppose I'm willing. What exactly do "we" need? I don't mind "starting". I sort of "test" openSUSE all the time. I guess I don't know exactly "what" we test (everything?).
In conclusion, at the moment it seems the idea of creating a stable, community-based, testing team is not feasible. We'll see however if someone shows up at the community week.
How do I "show up"? I didn't see specifics about webcasts or IRCs? Did I miss something?
On my side, I'm oriented to dedicate my efforts to other projects, more related to my activity. I hope someone else will try again, and succeed in making this idea reality. Good luck.
Willing to get involved.... you've been warned :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help@opensuse.org
Hi Chris, Il giorno mer, 29/04/2009 alle 23.50 -0500, Chris Cox ha scritto:
I suppose I'm willing. What exactly do "we" need? I don't mind "starting". I sort of "test" openSUSE all the time. I guess I don't know exactly "what" we test (everything?).
That's something that can be discussed during the community week I guess. In the meanwhile I would say "just use it in your regular routine usage".
In conclusion, at the moment it seems the idea of creating a stable, community-based, testing team is not feasible. We'll see however if someone shows up at the community week.
How do I "show up"? I didn't see specifics about webcasts or IRCs? Did I miss something?
The request for volunteers was in the slides I sent around and in almost all my emails about the idea of testing team. ;-) Anyway, thanks for showing up :)
On my side, I'm oriented to dedicate my efforts to other projects, more related to my activity. I hope someone else will try again, and succeed in making this idea reality. Good luck.
Willing to get involved.... you've been warned :)
Do you want to lead the idea? If so, that would be great. Best, Alberto -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Alberto Passalacqua wrote:
Il giorno mer, 29/04/2009 alle 23.50 -0500, Chris Cox ha scritto:
I suppose I'm willing. What exactly do "we" need? I don't mind "starting". I sort of "test" openSUSE all the time. I guess I don't know exactly "what" we test (everything?).
That's something that can be discussed during the community week I guess. In the meanwhile I would say "just use it in your regular routine usage".
I said I would be interested. I have a lot of requests for my time at the moment, but will assist where I can. I to wonder at how efective it will be. I have heard a lot of people reply to my requests, but no real commitments. I have asked them to show up at various places. I hope they do. -- Boyd Gerber <gerberb@zenez.com> 801 849-0213 ZENEZ 1042 East Fort Union #135, Midvale Utah 84047 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help@opensuse.org
Sorry, I didn't remember that, and I also forgot to mention another member of the SuSE team who was interested (Christian Hueller). The point is that from the community the number of participant is very small anyway. With the current number of contributors what can be done is the usual testing and bug report anyone can do independently IMHO. Best, A. Il giorno gio, 30/04/2009 alle 12.00 -0600, Boyd Lynn Gerber ha scritto:
On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Alberto Passalacqua wrote:
Il giorno mer, 29/04/2009 alle 23.50 -0500, Chris Cox ha scritto:
I suppose I'm willing. What exactly do "we" need? I don't mind "starting". I sort of "test" openSUSE all the time. I guess I don't know exactly "what" we test (everything?).
That's something that can be discussed during the community week I guess. In the meanwhile I would say "just use it in your regular routine usage".
I said I would be interested. I have a lot of requests for my time at the moment, but will assist where I can. I to wonder at how efective it will be. I have heard a lot of people reply to my requests, but no real commitments. I have asked them to show up at various places. I hope they do.
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Alberto Passalacqua wrote: ..
Do you want to lead the idea? If so, that would be great.
Not sure... rather contribute than lead. Some ideas... which may have been in the "slides" (?). Testing (core) areas I can think of: 1. The initial installer (a lot there) 2. YaST 3. Getting updates 4. sax2 5. Install/remove of software 6. Subsequent YaST configuring 7. openSUSE init (init scripts, etc) 8. Default configurations This might be part of some base essential testing... Specific things that users do/want to do: (obviously users want EVERYTHING) * Windows integration (file shares, printing, AD) * Printers * Networking (including WiFi) * Monitor setup (including multi-monitor, HDMI, USB, etc). * CD/DVD setup * A/V setup, including integration with CD/DVD * Web browsing (including plugins like Flash) * Productivity Apps (OpenOffice, KOffice, etc) Might be nice to develop a suite of tests to cover the basics usage areas. Obviously, it's hard to fix every application out there, but we can make an attempt at finding the issues. I imagine there's already something like this on the wiki or somewhere.. if not... let me know... I can start a page I suppose. Am I WAY off base?? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help@opensuse.org
Hello, on Donnerstag, 30. April 2009, Alberto Passalacqua wrote:
Il giorno mer, 29/04/2009 alle 23.50 -0500, Chris Cox ha scritto:
I suppose I'm willing. What exactly do "we" need? I don't mind "starting". I sort of "test" openSUSE all the time. I guess I don't know exactly "what" we test (everything?).
That's something that can be discussed during the community week I guess. In the meanwhile I would say "just use it in your regular routine usage".
If you see it this way ("just use it"), then I'll be part of the testing team. (You'll find at least 60 bugreports from me for every openSUSE release [1] based on "just use it", which means this method seems to work :-) My only "problem" is that I usually don't have time to go through a testing plan or something like that. Regards, Christian Boltz [1] bugreports from me: 9.2: 43 - 9.3: 45 - 10.0: 59 - 10.1: 134 - 10.2: 148 - 10.3: 99 - 11.0:77 - 11.1: 63 Looks like the quality of openSUSE increases (at least since 10.3) - with every release I find less bugs :-) -- Aber genauso können mir ja auch die Grünen leid tuen. Da bin ich doch lieber blau ... [Konrad Neitzel in suse-linux] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help@opensuse.org
Il giorno ven, 01/05/2009 alle 15.34 +0200, Christian Boltz ha scritto:
That's something that can be discussed during the community week I guess. In the meanwhile I would say "just use it in your regular routine usage".
If you see it this way ("just use it"), then I'll be part of the testing team. (You'll find at least 60 bugreports from me for every openSUSE release [1] based on "just use it", which means this method seems to work :-)
My only "problem" is that I usually don't have time to go through a testing plan or something like that.
The "testing plan" was the original idea, but considering we are in a limited number, at the moment I don't think it's feasible if not for a very small number of features. That's why I said "just use it in your regular routine", because something better would require more people, which is clearly not interested because it did not show up ;-) Best, A. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help@opensuse.org
Hello, I am part of the Italian community and was member of the localization team under Alberto Passalacqua's leadership. I am willing, too. I have been using SUSE since version 9.3, and Gentoo x86 and amd64 since 2006.1 My skills probably are not the best around, but I will be glad to help if I can. Best Regards, Luca Giusti _________________________________________________________________ Chiama gratis dal tuo PC! Parla su Messenger http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/140630369/direct/01/-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help@opensuse.org
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Alberto Passalacqua -
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luca giusti