Hello, some time ago I proposed the creation of a community based testing team for openSUSE pre-releases. I did not know of the existance of some infrastructure already in place, line the #opensuse-testing IRC channel and the opensuse-testing@opensuse.org mailing list, as I did not know of the work done by Holgie, daemon and their friends! Anyway, after some discussion with Zonker, I have been encouraged to move the topic here officially. I'm sorry for the repetitions that happened in different mailing lists. I'll try to do better next time! The main idea was to create a group of stable testers to deeply test openSUSE functionalities on their machines, in order to catch annoying bugs earlier in the development stages, allowing the fixes to be done and tested again in a more timely and less rushed manner. It won't be easy, we need motivated volunteers and we have a lot to learn to do it the right way, but I think it is worth the effort, if we want to keep faith to the guiding principles, which states openSUSE aims to be "the most usable Linux distribution" (and not the most cutting edge one!). I summed up the motivations, a short problem analysis about the current status quo, and some proposal of solution in some slides you can download from here: http://en.opensuse.org/Testing_Team Any suggestion on how to start is more than welcome! With kind regards, Alberto -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help@opensuse.org