This began as "printer again" and I mentioned a number of crashes. I have decided to start over, i.e., loading a new version of OpenSUSE-TW. I obviously would like to save as much of my own files and apps as possible. I've never done this before, so I don't know what I have to do. gparted shows some Windows partitions, then /dev/nvme0n1p6 as ext4 / and /dev/nvme0n1p7 as ext4 /home mount point shows as /run/media/doug/4640427543C81F7S The / and /home are formatted ext4, and I want to keep this formatting. It does appear that my own stuff is in /home, but is this just the CONTENTS of the apps, or the entire installed app? That is, do I have to look up and install all the apps over again? I have an outboard H/D with nothing on it, which gparted calls /dev/sda1, formatted ntfs at present. I want to copy the entire /home directory to this, and then copy it back to the cleaned up and reinstalled system. Should I leave the ntfs format, or should I change it? If so, to what? ext4? What should I be doing to get all this done, neatly and cleanly? Before you go: There MAY be a problem with the eset AV program. Is this something (which I paid for) that I have to eliminate, and if so, what can I replace it with? It seemed that before I went for eset I tried to install something free, but unsuccessfully. Sorry for the long post, but you folks have been a big help to this newbie to OpenSUSE, and I hope you will do so again. Thank you! --doug
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, 2021-02-14 at 14:40 -0500, Doug McGarrett wrote:
This began as "printer again" and I mentioned a number of crashes. I have decided to start over, i.e., loading a new version of OpenSUSE-TW. I obviously would like to save as much of my own files and apps as possible. I've never done this before, so I don't know what I have to do.
gparted shows some Windows partitions, then /dev/nvme0n1p6 as ext4 / and /dev/nvme0n1p7 as ext4 /home mount point shows as /run/media/doug/4640427543C81F7S The / and /home are formatted ext4, and I want to keep this formatting.
I would prefer you to paste the result of: lsblk --output NAME,KNAME,RA,RM,RO,PARTFLAGS,SIZE,TYPE,FSTYPE,LABEL,PARTLABEL,PTTYPE,MOUNTPOINT,UUID,PARTUUID,WWN,MODEL An example from a small laptop of mine: Legolas:~ # lsblk --output NAME,KNAME,RA,RM,RO,PARTFLAGS,SIZE,TYPE,FSTYPE,LABEL,PARTLABEL,PTTYPE,MOUNTPOINT,UUID,PARTUUID,WWN,MODEL NAME KNAME RA RM RO PARTFLAGS SIZE TYPE FSTYPE LABEL PARTLABEL PTTYPE MOUNTPOINT UUID PARTUUID WWN MODEL sda sda 512 0 0 931.5G disk gpt SanDisk ├─sda1 sda1 512 0 0 260M part vfat SYSTEM_DRV EFI system partition /boot/efi ....-.... f8.................................. ├─sda2 sda2 512 0 0 16M part Microsoft reserved partition .................................... ├─sda3 sda3 512 0 0 328.7G part ntfs Windows Basic data partition /windows/C EE.............. 74......-....-....-....-............ ├─sda4 sda4 512 0 0 25G part ntfs LENOVO Basic data partition 9C...........5A4 c31................................. ├─sda5 sda5 512 0 0 0x1 1000M part ntfs WINRE_DRV Basic data partition 5..............B 9a.................................. ├─sda6 sda6 512 0 0 0x1 12.2G part ntfs LENOVO_PART Basic data partition 0..............C .................................... ├─sda7 sda7 512 0 0 0x1 1000M part vfat LRS_ESP Basic data partition ...5-...4 .................................... ├─sda8 sda8 512 0 0 465.8G part crypto relleno ........-....-....-....-............ .................................... │ └─cr_sda8 dm-0 512 0 0 465.8G crypt xfs Home /home ........-....-....-....-............ ├─sda9 sda9 512 0 0 12G part swap Swap [SWAP] ........-....-....-....-............ .................................... ├─sda10 sda10 512 0 0 15G part ext4 Aux ........-....-....-....-............ .................................... └─sda11 sda11 512 0 0 30G part ext4 Main / ........-....-....-....-............ .................................... Legolas:~ #
It does appear that my own stuff is in /home, but is this just the CONTENTS of the apps, or the entire installed app?
It contains only application personal DATA and CONFIG.
That is, do I have to look up and install all the apps over again?
Yes, you do.
I have an outboard H/D with nothing on it, which gparted calls /dev/sda1, formatted ntfs at present. I want to copy the entire /home directory to this, and then copy it back to the cleaned up and reinstalled system.
Should I leave the ntfs format, or should I change it? If so, to what? ext4?
ext4, yes.
What should I be doing to get all this done, neatly and cleanly?
You have to go, during the install, partition section, to import existing fstab from a previous install (I don't remember where exactly it is, and anyway, I don't use TW). Maybe someone hs photos. Then you have to make sure that it formats "/" and does NOT format /home.
Before you go: There MAY be a problem with the eset AV program. Is this something (which I paid for) that I have to eliminate, and if so, what can I replace it with? It seemed that before I went for eset I tried to install something free, but unsuccessfully.
Nobody uses an antivirus on Linux and for Linux.
Sorry for the long post, but you folks have been a big help to this newbie to OpenSUSE, and I hope you will do so again. Thank you!
- -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.2 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHoEARECADoWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCYCmAoRwccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQHRlbGVmb25pY2EubmV0AAoJELUzGBxtjUfVQdQAn38zf2Z8U1IijqCd7ct0 8pShCoHhAJ9F7RGtOfDyBTLoLH47/NoZeLVuBA== =T2YA -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On 2/14/21 2:57 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Sunday, 2021-02-14 at 14:40 -0500, Doug McGarrett wrote:
This began as "printer again" and I mentioned a number of crashes. I have decided to start over, i.e., loading a new version of OpenSUSE-TW. I obviously would like to save as much of my own files and apps as possible. I've never done this before, so I don't know what I have to do.
gparted shows some Windows partitions, then /dev/nvme0n1p6 as ext4 / and /dev/nvme0n1p7 as ext4 /home mount point shows as /run/media/doug/4640427543C81F7S The / and /home are formatted ext4, and I want to keep this formatting.
I would prefer you to paste the result of:
lsblk --output NAME,KNAME,RA,RM,RO,PARTFLAGS,SIZE,TYPE,FSTYPE,LABEL,PARTLABEL,PTTYPE,MOUNTPOINT,UUID,PARTUUID,WWN,MODEL
An example from a small laptop of mine:
Legolas:~ # lsblk --output NAME,KNAME,RA,RM,RO,PARTFLAGS,SIZE,TYPE,FSTYPE,LABEL,PARTLABEL,PTTYPE,MOUNTPOINT,UUID,PARTUUID,WWN,MODEL NAME KNAME RA RM RO PARTFLAGS SIZE TYPE FSTYPE LABEL PARTLABEL PTTYPE MOUNTPOINT UUID PARTUUID WWN MODEL sda sda 512 0 0 931.5G disk gpt SanDisk ââsda1 sda1 512 0 0 260M part vfat SYSTEM_DRV EFI system partition /boot/efi ....-.... f8.................................. ââsda2 sda2 512 0 0 16M part Microsoft reserved partition .................................... ââsda3 sda3 512 0 0 328.7G part ntfs Windows Basic data partition /windows/C EE.............. 74......-....-....-....-............ ââsda4 sda4 512 0 0 25G part ntfs LENOVO Basic data partition 9C...........5A4 c31................................. ââsda5 sda5 512 0 0 0x1 1000M part ntfs WINRE_DRV Basic data partition 5..............B 9a.................................. ââsda6 sda6 512 0 0 0x1 12.2G part ntfs LENOVO_PART Basic data partition 0..............C .................................... ââsda7 sda7 512 0 0 0x1 1000M part vfat LRS_ESP Basic data partition ...5-...4 .................................... ââsda8 sda8 512 0 0 465.8G part crypto relleno ........-....-....-....-............ .................................... â ââcr_sda8 dm-0 512 0 0 465.8G crypt xfs Home /home ........-....-....-....-............ ââsda9 sda9 512 0 0 12G part swap Swap [SWAP] ........-....-....-....-............ .................................... ââsda10 sda10 512 0 0 15G part ext4 Aux ........-....-....-....-............ .................................... ââsda11 sda11 512 0 0 30G part ext4 Main / ........-....-....-....-............ .................................... Legolas:~ #
/snip/ (I have not yet deleted eset.) doug@linux1:~> lsblk --output NAME,KNAME,RA,RM,RO,PARTFLAGS,SIZE,TYPE,FSTYPE,LABEL,PARTLABEL,PTTYPE,MOUNTPOINT,UUID,PARTUUID,WWN,MODEL NAME KNAME RA RM RO PARTFLAGS SIZE TYPE FSTYPE LABEL PARTLABEL PTTYPE MOUNTPOINT UUID PARTUUID WWN MODEL sda sda 65532 0 0 465.8G disk dos 0x5002538e40df12a0 Samsung_SSD └─sda1 sda1 65532 0 0 465.8G part ntfs dos /run/media 4640427543C81F75 cfff80b9-01 0x5002538e40df12a0 sr0 sr0 512 1 0 1024M rom DVDRAM_GP08 nvme0n1 nvme0n1 512 0 0 465.8G disk gpt eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc WDC WDS500G ├─nvme0n1p1 nvme0n1p1 512 0 0 256M part vfat SYSTEM EFI system partition gpt /boot/efi 86C0-0003 8fd165ab-73ae-42d2-aead-fbf26da94e5f eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc ├─nvme0n1p2 nvme0n1p2 512 0 0 128M part Microsoft reserved partition gpt 6e245395-9bfb-42f5-8613-32ab02af0756 eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc ├─nvme0n1p3 nvme0n1p3 512 0 0 156.3G part ntfs Windows Basic data partition gpt 6C26C08726C0542C b34cda9a-2059-4562-8a76-a4be919a963e eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc ├─nvme0n1p4 nvme0n1p4 512 0 0 0x1 400M part ntfs Windows RE tools Basic data partition gpt D492C0A792C09002 de4456bf-407e-41c4-b4ef-f043bfa66d04 eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc ├─nvme0n1p5 nvme0n1p5 512 0 0 15.7G part ext4 / gpt 832150cd-8428-4e7e-aec4-99e3ccadd6f1 f6df11e7-4808-4415-a10d-7dc475a830e7 eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc ├─nvme0n1p6 nvme0n1p6 512 0 0 90.4G part ext4 gpt / beaa1f0d-2aa6-4d91-ba78-9c6fe9f173e4 b00955fe-7b67-4aec-8b5e-95b907363a34 eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc ├─nvme0n1p7 nvme0n1p7 512 0 0 200.7G part ext4 gpt /home d74301b5-36c9-4224-8539-523aab361cdc cba9397a-75e5-461e-afd1-012198195b5a eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc └─nvme0n1p8 nvme0n1p8 512 0 0 2G part swap gpt [SWAP] 81aa06d0-5e05-4127-86f5-5f7913e433b2 3f86f039-bb80-4f0a-b72e-c7bac121da1c eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc doug@linux1:~>
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, 2021-02-14 at 16:19 -0500, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 2/14/21 2:57 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Sunday, 2021-02-14 at 14:40 -0500, Doug McGarrett wrote:
This began as "printer again" and I mentioned a number of crashes. I have decided to start over, i.e., loading a new version of OpenSUSE-TW. I obviously would like to save as much of my own files and apps as possible. I've never done this before, so I don't know what I have to do.
gparted shows some Windows partitions, then /dev/nvme0n1p6 as ext4 / and /dev/nvme0n1p7 as ext4 /home mount point shows as /run/media/doug/4640427543C81F7S The / and /home are formatted ext4, and I want to keep this formatting.
I would prefer you to paste the result of:
lsblk --output NAME,KNAME,RA,RM,RO,PARTFLAGS,SIZE,TYPE,FSTYPE,LABEL,PARTLABEL,PTTYPE,MOUNTPOINT,UUID,PARTUUID,WWN,MODEL
/snip/ (I have not yet deleted eset.)
Ok, I took some time to straighten out the output, for correct interpretation.
doug@linux1:~> lsblk --output NAME,KNAME,RA,RM,RO,PARTFLAGS,SIZE,TYPE,FSTYPE,LABEL,PARTLABEL,PTTYPE,MOUNTPOINT,UUID,PARTUUID,WWN,MODEL NAME KNAME RA RM RO PARTFLAGS SIZE TYPE FSTYPE LABEL PARTLABEL PTTYPE MOUNTPOINT UUID PARTUUID WWN MODEL sda sda 65532 0 0 465.8G disk dos 0x5002538e40df12a0 Samsung_SSD └─sda1 sda1 65532 0 0 465.8G part ntfs dos /run/media 4640427543C81F75 cfff80b9-01 0x5002538e40df12a0 sr0 sr0 512 1 0 1024M rom DVDRAM_GP08
Ok, that's an external disk and a DVD. The important part is here:
nvme0n1 nvme0n1 512 0 0 465.8G disk gpt eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc WDC WDS500G ├─nvme0n1p1 nvme0n1p1 512 0 0 256M part vfat SYSTEM EFI system partition gpt /boot/efi 86C0-0003 8fd165ab-73ae-42d2-aead-fbf26da94e5f eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc ├─nvme0n1p2 nvme0n1p2 512 0 0 128M part Microsoft reserved partition gpt 6e245395-9bfb-42f5-8613-32ab02af0756 eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc ├─nvme0n1p3 nvme0n1p3 512 0 0 156.3G part ntfs Windows Basic data partition gpt 6C26C08726C0542C b34cda9a-2059-4562-8a76-a4be919a963e eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc ├─nvme0n1p4 nvme0n1p4 512 0 0 0x1 400M part ntfs Windows RE tools Basic data partition gpt D492C0A792C09002 de4456bf-407e-41c4-b4ef-f043bfa66d04 eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc ├─nvme0n1p5 nvme0n1p5 512 0 0 15.7G part ext4 / gpt 832150cd-8428-4e7e-aec4-99e3ccadd6f1 f6df11e7-4808-4415-a10d-7dc475a830e7 eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc ├─nvme0n1p6 nvme0n1p6 512 0 0 90.4G part ext4 gpt / beaa1f0d-2aa6-4d91-ba78-9c6fe9f173e4 b00955fe-7b67-4aec-8b5e-95b907363a34 eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc ├─nvme0n1p7 nvme0n1p7 512 0 0 200.7G part ext4 gpt /home d74301b5-36c9-4224-8539-523aab361cdc cba9397a-75e5-461e-afd1-012198195b5a eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc └─nvme0n1p8 nvme0n1p8 512 0 0 2G part swap gpt [SWAP] 81aa06d0-5e05-4127-86f5-5f7913e433b2 3f86f039-bb80-4f0a-b72e-c7bac121da1c eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc doug@linux1:~>
Ok, so you have to be careful not to touch partitions 1 to 4. Partition 5 baffles me, I don't know what it is. There is a strange "/" in the output. Partition 6 is the root "/", which will have to be formatted during installation, if you choose to install. Partition 7 is /home, and you have to be careful not to format it. Just use it intact. Partition 8 is swap. It doesn't matter if you format it or reuse. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.2 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHIEARECADIWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCYCmaBhQccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQGdteC5lcwAKCRC1MxgcbY1H1c6KAJ4lE4cUsxOK6t+73I7DOLN4w96C9gCg h+T/Mk/Fr+kTcKkQAlrxWJkTuQc= =lEcw -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On 2/14/21 4:45 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Sunday, 2021-02-14 at 16:19 -0500, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 2/14/21 2:57 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Sunday, 2021-02-14 at 14:40 -0500, Doug McGarrett wrote:
This began as "printer again" and I mentioned a number of crashes. I have decided to start over, i.e., loading a new version of OpenSUSE-TW.
I would prefer you to paste the result of:
lsblk --output
NAME,KNAME,RA,RM,RO,PARTFLAGS,SIZE,TYPE,FSTYPE,LABEL,PARTLABEL,PTTYPE,MOUNTPOINT,UUID,PARTUUID,WWN,MODEL
Following is before deletion of eset:
doug@linux1:~> lsblk --output NAME,KNAME,RA,RM,RO,PARTFLAGS,SIZE,TYPE,FSTYPE,LABEL,PARTLABEL,PTTYPE,MOUNTPOINT,UUID,PARTUUID,WWN,MODEL NAME KNAME RA RM RO PARTFLAGS SIZE TYPE FSTYPE LABEL PARTLABEL PTTYPE MOUNTPOINT UUID PARTUUID WWN MODEL sda sda 65532 0 0 465.8G disk dos 0x5002538e40df12a0 Samsung_SSD ââsda1 sda1 65532 0 0 465.8G part ntfs dos /run/media 4640427543C81F75 cfff80b9-01 0x5002538e40df12a0 sr0 sr0 512 1 0 1024M rom DVDRAM_GP08
Ok, that's an external disk and a DVD.
The important part is here:
nvme0n1 nvme0n1 512 0 0 465.8G disk gpt eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc WDC WDS500G âânvme0n1p1 nvme0n1p1 512 0 0 256M part vfat SYSTEM EFI system partition gpt /boot/efi 86C0-0003 8fd165ab-73ae-42d2-aead-fbf26da94e5f eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc âânvme0n1p2 nvme0n1p2 512 0 0 128M part Microsoft reserved partition gpt 6e245395-9bfb-42f5-8613-32ab02af0756 eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc âânvme0n1p3 nvme0n1p3 512 0 0 156.3G part ntfs Windows Basic data partition gpt 6C26C08726C0542C b34cda9a-2059-4562-8a76-a4be919a963e eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc âânvme0n1p4 nvme0n1p4 512 0 0 0x1 400M part ntfs Windows RE tools Basic data partition gpt D492C0A792C09002 de4456bf-407e-41c4-b4ef-f043bfa66d04 eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc âânvme0n1p5 nvme0n1p5 512 0 0 15.7G part ext4 / gpt 832150cd-8428-4e7e-aec4-99e3ccadd6f1 f6df11e7-4808-4415-a10d-7dc475a830e7 eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc âânvme0n1p6 nvme0n1p6 512 0 0 90.4G part ext4 gpt / beaa1f0d-2aa6-4d91-ba78-9c6fe9f173e4 b00955fe-7b67-4aec-8b5e-95b907363a34 eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc âânvme0n1p7 nvme0n1p7 512 0 0 200.7G part ext4 gpt /home d74301b5-36c9-4224-8539-523aab361cdc cba9397a-75e5-461e-afd1-012198195b5a eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc âânvme0n1p8 nvme0n1p8 512 0 0 2G part swap gpt [SWAP] 81aa06d0-5e05-4127-86f5-5f7913e433b2 3f86f039-bb80-4f0a-b72e-c7bac121da1c eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc doug@linux1:~>
Ok, so you have to be careful not to touch partitions 1 to 4.
Partition 5 baffles me, I don't know what it is. There is a strange "/" in the output. >>>>> Partition 5 is empty, but I couldn't remove it, for some reason. <<<<<
Partition 6 is the root "/", which will have to be formatted during installation, if you choose to install.
Partition 7 is /home, and you have to be careful not to format it. Just use it intact.
Partition 8 is swap. It doesn't matter if you format it or reuse. Now the strange output makes some sense! Thanx!
-- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.2 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 2/14/21 4:19 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 2/14/21 2:57 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
/snip/
I would prefer you to paste the result of:
lsblk --output NAME,KNAME,RA,RM,RO,PARTFLAGS,SIZE,TYPE,FSTYPE,LABEL,PARTLABEL,PTTYPE,MOUNTPOINT,UUID,PARTUUID,WWN,MODEL
/snip/ (I have not yet deleted eset.)
doug@linux1:~> lsblk --output NAME,KNAME,RA,RM,RO,PARTFLAGS,SIZE,TYPE,FSTYPE,LABEL,PARTLABEL,PTTYPE,MOUNTPOINT,UUID,PARTUUID,WWN,MODEL
NAME KNAME RA RM RO PARTFLAGS SIZE TYPE FSTYPE LABEL PARTLABEL PTTYPE MOUNTPOINT UUID PARTUUID WWN MODEL sda sda 65532 0 0 465.8G disk dos 0x5002538e40df12a0 Samsung_SSD └─sda1 sda1 65532 0 0 465.8G part ntfs dos /run/media 4640427543C81F75 cfff80b9-01 0x5002538e40df12a0 sr0 sr0 512 1 0 1024M rom DVDRAM_GP08 nvme0n1 nvme0n1 512 0 0 465.8G disk gpt eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc WDC WDS500G ├─nvme0n1p1 nvme0n1p1 512 0 0 256M part vfat SYSTEM EFI system partition gpt /boot/efi 86C0-0003 8fd165ab-73ae-42d2-aead-fbf26da94e5f eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc ├─nvme0n1p2 nvme0n1p2 512 0 0 128M part Microsoft reserved partition gpt 6e245395-9bfb-42f5-8613-32ab02af0756 eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc ├─nvme0n1p3 nvme0n1p3 512 0 0 156.3G part ntfs Windows Basic data partition gpt 6C26C08726C0542C b34cda9a-2059-4562-8a76-a4be919a963e eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc ├─nvme0n1p4 nvme0n1p4 512 0 0 0x1 400M part ntfs Windows RE tools Basic data partition gpt D492C0A792C09002 de4456bf-407e-41c4-b4ef-f043bfa66d04 eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc ├─nvme0n1p5 nvme0n1p5 512 0 0 15.7G part ext4 / gpt 832150cd-8428-4e7e-aec4-99e3ccadd6f1 f6df11e7-4808-4415-a10d-7dc475a830e7 eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc ├─nvme0n1p6 nvme0n1p6 512 0 0 90.4G part ext4 gpt / beaa1f0d-2aa6-4d91-ba78-9c6fe9f173e4 b00955fe-7b67-4aec-8b5e-95b907363a34 eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc ├─nvme0n1p7 nvme0n1p7 512 0 0 200.7G part ext4 gpt /home d74301b5-36c9-4224-8539-523aab361cdc cba9397a-75e5-461e-afd1-012198195b5a eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc └─nvme0n1p8 nvme0n1p8 512 0 0 2G part swap gpt [SWAP] 81aa06d0-5e05-4127-86f5-5f7913e433b2 3f86f039-bb80-4f0a-b72e-c7bac121da1c eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc doug@linux1:~>
Here's the same file after I deleted eset: doug@linux1:~> lsblk --output NAME,KNAME,RA,RM,RO,PARTFLAGS,SIZE,TYPE,FSTYPE,LABEL,PARTLABEL,PTTYPE,MOUNTPOINT,UUID,PARTUUID,WWN,MODEL NAME KNAME RA RM RO PARTFLAGS SIZE TYPE FSTYPE LABEL PARTLABEL PTTYPE MOUNTPOINT UUID PARTUUID WWN MODEL sda sda 65532 0 0 465.8G disk dos 0x5002538e40df12a0 Samsung_SSD └─sda1 sda1 65532 0 0 465.8G part ntfs dos 4640427543C81F75 cfff80b9-01 0x5002538e40df12a0 sr0 sr0 512 1 0 1024M rom DVDRAM_GP08 nvme0n1 nvme0n1 512 0 0 465.8G disk gpt eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc WDC WDS500G ├─nvme0n1p1 nvme0n1p1 512 0 0 256M part vfat SYSTEM EFI system partition gpt /boot/efi 86C0-0003 8fd165ab-73ae-42d2-aead-fbf26da94e5f eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc ├─nvme0n1p2 nvme0n1p2 512 0 0 128M part Microsoft reserved partition gpt 6e245395-9bfb-42f5-8613-32ab02af0756 eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc ├─nvme0n1p3 nvme0n1p3 512 0 0 156.3G part ntfs Windows Basic data partition gpt 6C26C08726C0542C b34cda9a-2059-4562-8a76-a4be919a963e eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc ├─nvme0n1p4 nvme0n1p4 512 0 0 0x1 400M part ntfs Windows RE tools Basic data partition gpt D492C0A792C09002 de4456bf-407e-41c4-b4ef-f043bfa66d04 eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc ├─nvme0n1p5 nvme0n1p5 512 0 0 15.7G part ext4 / gpt 832150cd-8428-4e7e-aec4-99e3ccadd6f1 f6df11e7-4808-4415-a10d-7dc475a830e7 eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc ├─nvme0n1p6 nvme0n1p6 512 0 0 90.4G part ext4 gpt / beaa1f0d-2aa6-4d91-ba78-9c6fe9f173e4 b00955fe-7b67-4aec-8b5e-95b907363a34 eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc ├─nvme0n1p7 nvme0n1p7 512 0 0 200.7G part ext4 gpt /home d74301b5-36c9-4224-8539-523aab361cdc cba9397a-75e5-461e-afd1-012198195b5a eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc └─nvme0n1p8 nvme0n1p8 512 0 0 2G part swap gpt [SWAP] 81aa06d0-5e05-4127-86f5-5f7913e433b2 3f86f039-bb80-4f0a-b72e-c7bac121da1c eui.e8238fa6bf530001001b448b4610debc doug@linux1:~> Hope that means something to you-- doug
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, 2021-02-14 at 17:21 -0500, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 2/14/21 4:19 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 2/14/21 2:57 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
/snip/
I would prefer you to paste the result of:
lsblk --output NAME,KNAME,RA,RM,RO,PARTFLAGS,SIZE,TYPE,FSTYPE,LABEL,PARTLABEL,PTTYPE,MOUNTPOINT,UUID,PARTUUID,WWN,MODEL
Here's the same file after I deleted eset: doug@linux1:~> lsblk --output
Nono, there is no point in doing that. There will be no alteration. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.2 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHIEARECADIWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCYCmk3RQccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQGdteC5lcwAKCRC1MxgcbY1H1bKMAJ9eFsrErEx69sLcWYttuBl9+W7GSQCe LtTAmdpS0Uc+Cs2fs5cPkUB3OtU= =mFwi -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On 2/14/21 11:40 AM, Doug McGarrett wrote:
It does appear that my own stuff is in /home, but is this just the CONTENTS of the apps, or the entire installed app? That is, do I have to look up and install all the apps over again?
In general, /home contains only the data that the apps process. Apps are usually installed in system areas, which allows multiple users to use them. There are some apps that are self-contained in /home, but they're outnumbered by the others.
I have an outboard H/D with nothing on it, which gparted calls /dev/sda1, formatted ntfs at present. I want to copy the entire /home directory to this, and then copy it back to the cleaned up and reinstalled system.
Should I leave the ntfs format, or should I change it? If so, to what? ext4?
In general, I prefer the XFS filesystem, or maybe ext4. I certainly wouldn't use NTFS unless you need a Windows machine to access the data.
What should I be doing to get all this done, neatly and cleanly?
Is a full re-install really necessary? It may seem as if you're having lots of independent issues, but frequently there's one problem that creates a cascade of seemingly unrelated errors. The trick is finding that one core problem. The Mother of All Problems.
Before you go: There MAY be a problem with the eset AV program. Is this something (which I paid for) that I have to eliminate, and if so, what can I replace it with? It seemed that before I went for eset I tried to install something free, but unsuccessfully.
From past experience, AV programs are frequently the Mother of All Problems. I suggest trying to uninstall your AV and see what happens before tearing everything apart. I'm currently having big problems with McAfee AV, which I'm required by management to install. It causes random system crashes and self denials of service. On the grand scale, why do you think you need AV on Linux in the first place? It's generally only used on servers that host Windows files. But even the Windows world is moving away from third-party AV, the Microsoft Defender system, included with Windows, generally does a better job of protecting Windows systems than aftermarket AV. Yes, viruses for Linux exist, but they are rare, and if you keep your Linux box up-to-date with security updates and practice good backup practices you should be safe enough. You can also run security packages like "aide" and "rkhunter". They're open-source and included in the openSUSE repositories, and they won't gum up your system. These are my own opinions, take them for what they're worth, and Have a Lot of Fun! Regards, Lew
On 14/02/2021 21.11, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
On 2/14/21 11:40 AM, Doug McGarrett wrote:
What should I be doing to get all this done, neatly and cleanly?
Is a full re-install really necessary? It may seem as if you're having lots of independent issues, but frequently there's one problem that creates a cascade of seemingly unrelated errors. The trick is finding that one core problem. The Mother of All Problems.
Good point.
Before you go: There MAY be a problem with the eset AV program. Is this something (which I paid for) that I have to eliminate, and if so, what can I replace it with? It seemed that before I went for eset I tried to install something free, but unsuccessfully.
From past experience, AV programs are frequently the Mother of All Problems. I suggest trying to uninstall your AV and see what happens before tearing everything apart. I'm currently having big problems with McAfee AV, which I'm required by management to install. It causes random system crashes and self denials of service.
That sucks :-(
On the grand scale, why do you think you need AV on Linux in the first place?
Archived-At: https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/support@lists.opensuse.org/message/... -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.2 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 2/14/21 2:40 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:
This began as "printer again" and I mentioned a number of crashes. I have decided to start over, i.e., loading a new version of OpenSUSE-TW. I obviously would like to save as much of my own files and apps as possible. I've never done this before, so I don't know what I have to do.
gparted shows some Windows partitions, then /dev/nvme0n1p6 as ext4 / and /dev/nvme0n1p7 as ext4 /home mount point shows as /run/media/doug/4640427543C81F7S The / and /home are formatted ext4, and I want to keep this formatting.
It does appear that my own stuff is in /home, but is this just the CONTENTS of the apps, or the entire installed app? That is, do I have to look up and install all the apps over again?
I have an outboard H/D with nothing on it, which gparted calls /dev/sda1, formatted ntfs at present. I want to copy the entire /home directory to this, and then copy it back to the cleaned up and reinstalled system.
Should I leave the ntfs format, or should I change it? If so, to what? ext4?
What should I be doing to get all this done, neatly and cleanly?
Before you go: There MAY be a problem with the eset AV program. Is this something (which I paid for) that I have to eliminate, and if so, what can I replace it with? It seemed that before I went for eset I tried to install something free, but unsuccessfully.
Sorry for the long post, but you folks have been a big help to this newbie to OpenSUSE, and I hope you will do so again. Thank you!
--doug
I agree with Lew, you don't need to reinstall just yet. The first likelihood is a conflict arising from the ESET driver. Products like NOD32 use a low-level driver which not only interrogates new files/mail/etc. for viruses but also hooks into processes used by apps. The version you have may have been installed incorrectly (I suspect this is your problem, with preload - see links I sent previous), but it may also be a bug (as was the case in one of the links) or it may be an incompatibility causing a service like d-bus to choke. If trying the preload fix is too challenging, then just uninstall and request a refund. If you really feel you need an antivirus on openSUSE, you should take a look at clamav. It provides a scanning daemon for file checking but IIRC it doesn't have the low-level hooks. It definitely does not include intrusion detection. Aide is for intrusion detection and IIRC is based on SELinux. Rkhunter I think is an on-demand scanner for rootkits and backdoors. These are fairly advanced tools. Before going down either path you probably should take a look at AppArmor first. --dg
On 14/02/2021 21.52, DennisG wrote:
On 2/14/21 2:40 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:
...
What should I be doing to get all this done, neatly and cleanly?
Before you go: There MAY be a problem with the eset AV program. Is this something (which I paid for) that I have to eliminate, and if so, what can I replace it with? It seemed that before I went for eset I tried to install something free, but unsuccessfully.
Sorry for the long post, but you folks have been a big help to this newbie to OpenSUSE, and I hope you will do so again. Thank you!
I agree with Lew, you don't need to reinstall just yet.
The first likelihood is a conflict arising from the ESET driver. Products like NOD32 use a low-level driver which not only interrogates new files/mail/etc. for viruses but also hooks into processes used by apps. The version you have may have been installed incorrectly (I suspect this is your problem, with preload - see links I sent previous), but it may also be a bug (as was the case in one of the links) or it may be an incompatibility causing a service like d-bus to choke.
If trying the preload fix is too challenging, then just uninstall and request a refund.
If you really feel you need an antivirus on openSUSE, you should take a look at clamav. It provides a scanning daemon for file checking but IIRC it doesn't have the low-level hooks. It definitely does not include intrusion detection.
Aide is for intrusion detection and IIRC is based on SELinux. Rkhunter I think is an on-demand scanner for rootkits and backdoors. These are fairly advanced tools. Before going down either path you probably should take a look at AppArmor first.
Please have a look at the "attack" described at the link to previous conversations, and then recommend a course of action: Archived-At: https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/support@lists.opensuse.org/message/... Specifically: https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/support@lists.opensuse.org/message/... and https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/support@lists.opensuse.org/message/... -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.2 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 2/14/21 12:59 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 14/02/2021 21.52, DennisG wrote:
On 2/14/21 2:40 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote: ...
What should I be doing to get all this done, neatly and cleanly?
Before you go: There MAY be a problem with the eset AV program. Is this something (which I paid for) that I have to eliminate, and if so, what can I replace it with? It seemed that before I went for eset I tried to install something free, but unsuccessfully.
Sorry for the long post, but you folks have been a big help to this newbie to OpenSUSE, and I hope you will do so again. Thank you! I agree with Lew, you don't need to reinstall just yet.
The first likelihood is a conflict arising from the ESET driver. Products like NOD32 use a low-level driver which not only interrogates new files/mail/etc. for viruses but also hooks into processes used by apps. The version you have may have been installed incorrectly (I suspect this is your problem, with preload - see links I sent previous), but it may also be a bug (as was the case in one of the links) or it may be an incompatibility causing a service like d-bus to choke.
If trying the preload fix is too challenging, then just uninstall and request a refund.
If you really feel you need an antivirus on openSUSE, you should take a look at clamav. It provides a scanning daemon for file checking but IIRC it doesn't have the low-level hooks. It definitely does not include intrusion detection.
Aide is for intrusion detection and IIRC is based on SELinux. Rkhunter I think is an on-demand scanner for rootkits and backdoors. These are fairly advanced tools. Before going down either path you probably should take a look at AppArmor first. Please have a look at the "attack" described at the link to previous conversations, and then recommend a course of action:
Archived-At: https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/support@lists.opensuse.org/message/...
Specifically: https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/support@lists.opensuse.org/message/...
and
https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/support@lists.opensuse.org/message/...
Has evidence of an intrusion been submitted, Carlos? Or is there some other reason for the bogus Amazon orders? For example, just yesterday I received a phone call from a recording claiming to be Amazon saying that I had ordered a $800 something that was being delivered to Texas and to press one to talk with someone to confirm the order. I pressed one and a woman with a slight accent answered, maybe Indian. She said she could help track down the order if I told her what kind of computer I was using. I told her "Linux", which seemed to confuse her a bit. She then asked if I had any other way to log into Amazon, I told her I also had a cell phone. She asked if it was Android or IOS. Android says I. She then asked me to go to a specific web site, I don't remember what it was. At that point I lost it and started to swear at her, telling her to perform an act on herself that would have been very difficult to perform. She was obviously trying to trick me into going to a malicious web site where malware would be installed on my phone to try to steal anything of value, including probably identity. Regards, Lew
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, 2021-02-14 at 14:21 -0800, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
On 2/14/21 12:59 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 14/02/2021 21.52, DennisG wrote:
On 2/14/21 2:40 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:
...
Please have a look at the "attack" described at the link to previous conversations, and then recommend a course of action:
Archived-At: https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/support@lists.opensuse.org/message/...
Specifically: https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/support@lists.opensuse.org/message/...
and
https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/support@lists.opensuse.org/message/...
Has evidence of an intrusion been submitted, Carlos? Or is there some other reason for the bogus Amazon orders?
I intentionally did not offer an opinion, to see what you think on your own ;-) And you live there, surely you have more knowledge than me about the local "attacks".
For example, just yesterday I received a phone call from a recording claiming to be Amazon saying that I had ordered a $800 something that was being delivered to Texas and to press one to talk with someone to confirm the order. I pressed one and a woman with a slight accent answered, maybe Indian. She said she could help track down the order if I told her what kind of computer I was using. I told her "Linux", which seemed to confuse her a bit. She then asked if I had any other way to log into Amazon, I told her I also had a cell phone. She asked if it was Android or IOS. Android says I. She then asked me to go to a specific web site, I don't remember what it was. At that point I lost it and started to swear at her, telling her to perform an act on herself that would have been very difficult to perform. She was obviously trying to trick me into going to a malicious web site where malware would be installed on my phone to try to steal anything of value, including probably identity.
Phishing attempt, yep. I do not get angry, I laugh loudly at them. It works, they don't try again. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.2 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHIEARECADIWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCYCmkahQccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQGdteC5lcwAKCRC1MxgcbY1H1WqUAJ9v/sCOXFdhIPklAOs1ix3J3IzKJwCc DAt3BPJrZVwCqhn6QMk08Npoyp0= =62lN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On 2/14/21 3:59 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 14/02/2021 21.52, DennisG wrote:
On 2/14/21 2:40 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote: ...
What should I be doing to get all this done, neatly and cleanly?
Before you go: There MAY be a problem with the eset AV program. Is this something (which I paid for) that I have to eliminate, and if so, what can I replace it with? It seemed that before I went for eset I tried to install something free, but unsuccessfully.
Sorry for the long post, but you folks have been a big help to this newbie to OpenSUSE, and I hope you will do so again. Thank you!
I agree with Lew, you don't need to reinstall just yet.
The first likelihood is a conflict arising from the ESET driver. Products like NOD32 use a low-level driver which not only interrogates new files/mail/etc. for viruses but also hooks into processes used by apps. The version you have may have been installed incorrectly (I suspect this is your problem, with preload - see links I sent previous), but it may also be a bug (as was the case in one of the links) or it may be an incompatibility causing a service like d-bus to choke.
If trying the preload fix is too challenging, then just uninstall and request a refund.
If you really feel you need an antivirus on openSUSE, you should take a look at clamav. It provides a scanning daemon for file checking but IIRC it doesn't have the low-level hooks. It definitely does not include intrusion detection.
Aide is for intrusion detection and IIRC is based on SELinux. Rkhunter I think is an on-demand scanner for rootkits and backdoors. These are fairly advanced tools. Before going down either path you probably should take a look at AppArmor first. Please have a look at the "attack" described at the link to previous conversations, and then recommend a course of action:
Archived-At: https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/support@lists.opensuse.org/message/...
Specifically: https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/support@lists.opensuse.org/message/...
and
https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/support@lists.opensuse.org/message/...
I hadn't seen that thread. Good grief. Re the "hack", from the post it's not clear if the email supposedly from Amazon was some sort of phish and/or whether his Amazon account was actually compromised. As already stated, there is no way to know from the many possibilities just how his credentials were apparently stolen. And so no way to know how to prevent a repeat. Re NOD32, the "Security" version that Doug installed includes the "network detection" flavor of IDS which intercepts network traffic. I can't tell if it also does "host detection", where the driver hooks operating system files/processes. Both require invasive low-level access, one reason why it is not uncommon for a problem to arise with updates to the operating system - like, say, TW's frequent updates. I suggest to first check the NOD32 installation, particularly the preload issue discussed in the links I posted. That may clear up the software issues. That said however, with as powerful a system as is NOD32 Security with its IDS, I would be very hesitant to use it with a rolling release (i.e., TW) and only then if I really understood my system in-depth because otherwise there may be a problem for which "reinstall" is your only solution. If I felt a need for IDS, I would first look at AppArmor or then Aide, provided by my distro. And if I wanted a traditional file-scanning antivirus, I would consider clamav, also provided by openSUSE. And btw, if glibc-locale-base-32bit was installed from the pkgs.org site, replace it with the version from the TW repo (which was there all along). That's all I got. --dg
On 2/14/21 3:52 PM, DennisG wrote:
On 2/14/21 2:40 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:
This began as "printer again" and I mentioned a number of crashes.
/snip/
I agree with Lew, you don't need to reinstall just yet.
The first likelihood is a conflict arising from the ESET driver. Products like NOD32 use a low-level driver which not only interrogates new files/mail/etc. for viruses but also hooks into processes used by apps. The version you have may have been installed incorrectly (I suspect this is your problem, with preload - see links I sent previous), but it may also be a bug (as was the case in one of the links) or it may be an incompatibility causing a service like d-bus to choke.
If trying the preload fix is too challenging, then just uninstall and request a refund.
If you really feel you need an antivirus on openSUSE, you should take a look at clamav. It provides a scanning daemon for file checking but IIRC it doesn't have the low-level hooks. It definitely does not include intrusion detection.
Aide is for intrusion detection and IIRC is based on SELinux. Rkhunter I think is an on-demand scanner for rootkits and backdoors. These are fairly advanced tools. Before going down either path you probably should take a look at AppArmor first.
--dg
This goes back a few days, but I remember not being able to install clamav. Don't know why. I will remove eset. Doubt if I'll get a refund. Oh, well. . . --doug
On Sun 14 Feb 2021 02:40:15 PM CST, Doug McGarrett wrote:
This began as "printer again" and I mentioned a number of crashes. I have decided to start over, i.e., loading a new version of OpenSUSE-TW. I obviously would like to save as much of my own files and apps as possible. I've never done this before, so I don't know what I have to do.
gparted shows some Windows partitions, then /dev/nvme0n1p6 as ext4 / and /dev/nvme0n1p7 as ext4 /home mount point shows as /run/media/doug/4640427543C81F7S The / and /home are formatted ext4, and I want to keep this formatting. Hi I only have a comment about the nvme device, some users have noted (including me, but mine would not boot) that the nvme_core module needed a boot option to stop random crashes and freezing...
nvme_core.default_ps_max_latency_us=0 Ref: https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/549897-btrfs-Enters-Read-Only-mod... -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° SUSE Knowledge Partner (Linux Counter #276890) Tumbleweed 20210210 | GNOME Shell 3.38.3 | 5.10.12-1-default Intel DQ77MK | Xeon E3-1245 V2 X8 @ 3.40 GHz | Intel/AMD/Nvidia up 23:34, 2 users, load average: 0.92, 0.94, 0.92
On 2/14/21 5:42 PM, Malcolm wrote:
On Sun 14 Feb 2021 02:40:15 PM CST, Doug McGarrett wrote:
This began as "printer again" and I mentioned a number of crashes. I have decided to start over, i.e., loading a new version of OpenSUSE-TW. I obviously would like to save as much of my own files and apps as possible. I've never done this before, so I don't know what I have to do.
gparted shows some Windows partitions, then /dev/nvme0n1p6 as ext4 / and /dev/nvme0n1p7 as ext4 /home mount point shows as /run/media/doug/4640427543C81F7S The / and /home are formatted ext4, and I want to keep this formatting. Hi I only have a comment about the nvme device, some users have noted (including me, but mine would not boot) that the nvme_core module needed a boot option to stop random crashes and freezing...
nvme_core.default_ps_max_latency_us=0
Ref: https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/549897-btrfs-Enters-Read-Only-mod...
As you see above, I'm not using a btrfs file system, so I don't know if there's any relevance here. --doug
nvme_core.default_ps_max_latency_us=0
Ref: <https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/549897-btrfs-Enters-Read-Only -mode-and-crashes-every-few-hours>
As you see above, I'm not using a btrfs file system, so I don't know if there's any relevance here. The relevance is there, since the thread makes clear btrfs is not the issue,
Op maandag 15 februari 2021 01:46:41 CET schreef Doug McGarrett: the need of the parameter is -- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board openSUSE Forums Team
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Carlos E. R. -
Carlos E. R. -
Carlos E.R.
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DennisG -
Doug McGarrett -
Knurpht-openSUSE -
Lew Wolfgang -
Malcolm