On 9/23/20 7:17 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/23/20 5:08 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Doug McGarrett <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> [09-23-20 16:42]:
On 9/23/20 11:04 AM, Atri Bhattacharya wrote:
Hi Doug,
On Tue, 2020-09-22 at 23:54 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/22/20 10:19 PM, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
The easiest way to find packages you need is to use the search function in YaST That worked once. I found and installed KFind. Tried to "find" another app, and was stymied by
a program called ruby.ruby. Was told I need to close it. I didn't open it, and I don't know what it does. Yeah, that's a pretty cryptic message that it displays. Anytime the YaST2 Software Management Module complains that it being "blocked by ruby.ruby2.X" when it is launched, what it means is that there is already another instance of YaST2 software management window open. Perhaps you didn't already close the previous YaST2 window you launched ? I opened a bug here: <https://github.com/yast/yast-yast2/issues/1102>, to improve that message. In most cases you don't need to "kill" anything, just close that other YaST2 window that is open and hit "Retry" on this one.
Cheers,
Finally a letter that didn't tell me I'm too old/stupid/etc. to use Linux.
no one has been telling you that. You have failed to follow instruction or have failed to understand the instructions and applied incorrectly attempts to accomplish things in manners that no one understands.
I have not deliberately failed to follow instructions. Most probably one of two things-- I did not understand the instructions--and I don't know why--or perhaps my best fofrm of instructions is printed on paper, and that's the main thing I have been trying to do here: get the instructions on paper so I can refer to them as required. When something is in an email, it is transient. No, I don't mean I erase it--it just gets lost in the jumble of emails that come in, mainly from those on the open-suse lists, but some from others folks, and also the usual spam. I use Linux probably for many of the same reasons you folks do: I don't like to put on the Windows strait-jacket--for years it was impossible to avoid the double-click!--try and become an administrator--every year or two they change the code to do so--try and format a flash drive: if it was ever used for a Linux program, forget it! Want to use a writing program? Use Microsoft Word and pay them a fee every year. Pay, pay, pay for software that frequently doesn't do what you expected, but you've already paid for it. There is only one software program that I have ever paid for in Linux: Software Office. An excellent Word Processor, which is probably the most serious app that's most used by me--and I have to save the output in Word format so the rest of the world can read it! (It also has a spread sheet and an app that makes presentation slides. I sometimes get a schedule in spread-sheet format, so it's nice that I can read it without paying MS to let me.) Oh, BTW, there;s now a free version of this software. Why do I use this paid routine instead of Libre Office? For one thing, Libre can throw in some funny black blobs in the middle of your downloaded copy when you go to print it out. For another, it seems to like multi pages on screen at once. No thanx, Libre. So what I need to do here--and btw, I don't see any actual simplification in Leap--I now have it loaded and set up just about the same as TW, with the same printing and (probably) scanning problems--is get the damned printers and scanner to work and I will be a quiet little church mouse until I can actually *contribute* something useful to the crew.
Apologies for this long diatribe. I intend to stay with OS--the TW version, since I don't see any real difference in Leap except the lack of ability to update the system without revamping the whole thing every year or so. The problem I have run up against is the same in both systems. It occurs to me, btw, that the instructions on screen have been written by programmers who already know what they are trying to convey; it's like they are speaking to guys like me in a dialect I'm not completely familiar with.
I appreciate all the attempts to help. I hope it will come to a successful conclusion shortly and I will be out your hair. --doug
Fwiw . . . A lot of your questions seem to be end-user oriented about a particular application, e.g., IIRC you've had a couple issues with Thunderbird. While there is a chance someone here will know the answer from his/her experience, you'll typically do better by doing what most of us do: Search for the answer where support is provided for the app (in this example, the Mozilla site) or use a search engine like google where you very likely will see your problem and probably the solution found by another user. The focus of the list is more the operating system itself. Additionally, it's helpful to note that the Forums are often the better alternative when it comes to typical end-user questions. That's a main reason the Forums exist. New users frequently share some of the same issues, e.g., with booting or using YaST or setting up hardware (like your printer problem, for which the solution was provided a month ago). The Forums see these types of issues repeatedly, and folks there are prepared (within reason) to invest the time needed to shepherd a user. Often there is already a solution, which can be found using the Search function. The Forums also provide a gui visual structure that captures the entire problem/solution discussion in a thread, easier for the user than an email thread. All that can save a lot of time for everyone, for the user in the present and in the future for other users. Something to consider. --dg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org