14.09.19 13:59 - Patrick Shanahan:
* Hagen Buliwyf <hagen.buliwyf@t-online.de> [09-14-19 06:04]:
Am 13.09.19 um 23:09 schrieb Patrick Shanahan:
* Knurpht-openSUSE <knurpht@opensuse.org> [09-13-19 16:18]:
Op vrijdag 13 september 2019 15:31:23 CEST schreef Hagen Buliwyf:
Dear list readers,
it's me again. As described in this post
https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-support/2019-09/msg00048.html
i installed Tumbleweed with disabled "Install recommended packages"-option right from the beginning. With your help i finally succeeded to login to a plasma session successfully.
But - although i changed (on the very first screen of the installer) the language the system should be installed in to "German" - my system presents a really bizarre mix of german/english, e.g.:
When i press the right mouse button on the KDE starter button i get this menu
Edit Applications (German: "Menüeinträge bearbeiten") Configure Anwendungsmenü (German: "Anwendungsmenü einrichten ...) Show Alternatives (German: "Alternativen bearbeiten) Kontrollleiste Options (German: "Kontrollleiste-Optionen")
Similar effects can be seen in many applications as well.
So my question are:
The language selection is the very first decision to make in the installer. Even if the user decides NOT to install recommended packages, shouldn't all language packages required for the installed packages being installed as well?
I have checked my package list in yast and for every installed package i installed the corresponding -lang package (if there was one). Still i have that language mix (e.g. in dolphin the menu is in english some submenus are in german others a mix of both languages). What additional package(s) must i install to get a desktop completely in german? (-lang-packages should be installed for every installed package!)
Regards
Hagen AFIACS this is directly related to not installing the recommends during install.
If "German language" was an option and was selected, the German lang packages should not be "recommended" but if available, "required". ie: a "Specification" is not an option or recomendataion but a requriement.
That was what i thought as well.
But obviuosly (beeing no native english speaker) my interpretation of the term "recommended" is wrong.
in the selection for "German Language", I believe not. If one goes into a malt shop and orders a chocolate sunday and nothing else (ie: no recommends) , one still expects to receive the sunday in a container, not loose on the counter top. Opting for "German Language" in the menu should provide "German Language" and "no-recommends" should preclude "English Language" or any other "Language".
the *mix* you received qualifies as a bug and deserves reporting. and if you do not, another will have the same problem and possibly the same discussion here.
Here is my bug report ( i wash my hands of this :-) ): https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1150790
opting for "no-recommends" is not an absolution for failing to provide specific options/selections.
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