So, I decided to install tumbleweed on my laptop... very pleased in general... seems to run faster, I can use my mousepad for the first time in a year, adapted better to the generic amdgpu driver, so the graphics look more crisp and clean. Nice. The install was an upgrade from 42.3 via zypper dup after setting up all the tumbleweed repos and removing the 42.3 repos. But there are a few problems to get around. The first one is that I can only run the plasma desktop. I tried booting up and loading LXDE and XFCE, but when I login to either of those from the display manager, the screen goes black. I get a mouse cursor, but nothing else. When I hit ctrl-alt-double backspace to kill X, the actual LXDE or XFCE screen will pop up for about 30 seconds, and then it will go back to the display manager. A possibly related problem - /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager says this: # Here you can set the default Display manager (kdm/xdm/gdm/wdm/entrance/console). # all changes in this file require a restart of the displaymanager # DISPLAYMANAGER="sddm" However, the display manager doesn't actually look like it is sddm. It looks like it is gdm. I mean, it really is the gnome display manager and not sddm, unless sddm has been changed in tumbleweed to be exactly like gdm. I don't know if that is related to the problem of not being able to run any other DE besides plasma or not. Any ideas? Not sure what else to post here. Here is a link to my Xorg.0.log.old file after closing out trying to get into lxde and xfce and opening up plasma again: https://pastebin.com/raw/eRJPdNqH I would not know what to look for in that log file, so I just put the whole thing there. -- George Box: 42.3 | KDE Plasma 5.8 | AMD Phenom IIX4 | 64 | 32GB Laptop #1: TW | Plasma 5.13 | AMD FX 7TH GEN | 64 | 32GB Laptop #2: 42.3 | KDE Plasma 5.8 | Core i5 | 64 | 8GB -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org