On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 11:56:08 +0200 Hagen Buliwyf <hagen.buliwyf@t-online.de> wrote:
Am 13.09.19 um 21:40 schrieb Dave Howorth:
On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 17:35:53 +0200 Hagen Buliwyf <hagen.buliwyf@t-online.de> wrote:
Am 13.09.19 um 15:31 schrieb Hagen Buliwyf:
Dear list readers,
it's me again. As described in this post
https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-support/2019-09/msg00048.html
i installed Tumbleweed with disabled "Install recommended packages"-option right from the beginning. With your help i finally succeeded to login to a plasma session successfully.
But - although i changed (on the very first screen of the installer) the language the system should be installed in to "German" - my system presents a really bizarre mix of german/english, e.g.:
When i press the right mouse button on the KDE starter button i get this menu
Edit Applications (German: "Menüeinträge bearbeiten") Configure Anwendungsmenü (German: "Anwendungsmenü einrichten ...) Show Alternatives (German: "Alternativen bearbeiten) Kontrollleiste Options (German: "Kontrollleiste-Optionen")
Similar effects can be seen in many applications as well.
So my question are:
The language selection is the very first decision to make in the installer. Even if the user decides NOT to install recommended packages, shouldn't all language packages required for the installed packages being installed as well?
This question still remains.
Although my knowledge of the english language is quite limited the english-german-mixed dialogs did not present an unsolvable problem to me.
But does it really make sense to present someone who selected let's say "Chinese" as her/his desired system language with english-chinese dialogs just because she/he decided to not install recommended packages?
I have checked my package list in yast and for every installed package i installed the corresponding -lang package (if there was one).
Shame on me!
No shame there. It seems clear to me that you're right. If you chose a German language interface early in the process, then the system is responsible for installing all the German language packages (but not the Indonesian ones) and you aren't.
I don't remember whether you have already bug-reported this, but if not then I think you should do so.
Thanks for your answer to my post.
I'm not sure about this! Other people on this list told me that my understanding of the term "recommended" is wrong.
So i don't want to bother developers only because my knowledge of the english language is so bad.
Well, my opinion is that your understanding of 'recommended' is correct and I am a native English speaker. But 'recommends' is not relevant here, is it? You asked for a German language interface and you haven't been given it. I suggest that you do bug report it. That is the only way the devs will hear about the problem if it is a bug, and they can easily tell you if they think it isn't a bug.
I missed out a few packages (mainly libKF5*-lang ones). Now i do have (as far as i can see at the moment) a all-german user interface.
Still i have that language mix (e.g. in dolphin the menu is in english some submenus are in german others a mix of both languages). What additional package(s) must i install to get a desktop completely in german? (-lang-packages should be installed for every installed package!)
Regards
Hagen
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