Hi Stefan, Am Mo, den 26.01.2004 schrieb Stefan Onken um 23:43:
Am Montag, 26. Januar 2004 19:52 schrieb Tobias Weisserth:
I don't like your tone, young man ;-) Seriously. Acting like this isn't helping anyone.
well, normally I do not like this kind of conversation, but he raised a valid point: SuSE 9.0 came without a working nmap (does not work under root) nor with a working tripwire.
Which is kind of a setback I agree, but 99% of SuSE customers don't use those two tools, I guess. I know that is not a valid argument, but it sure didn't make things more difficult for SuSE to decide: Let's roll 9.0 now.
(I dont want to mention other bugs which have been fix until now). And of course a user has the right to demand for working programs.
I guess that's certainly the case when you are a paying SuSE customer.
Now you can say: install the RPM of 8.2, compile by your own, get the patched nmap.... I am doing that, but lots of more unskilled users (and I am NOT the super expert) does not have this chance.
The more unskilled user doesn't know how to use nmap at all. In fact, if you're not able to install a single RPM then you shouldn't be using nmap at all. But that's just my opinion. The same goes for Tripwire.
P.S. If (!) M$ would act this way, we all would beat them to hell .....
We already have. Or are you still using MS products? ;-) I just don't understand the hostile tone here, because obviously there _is_ a solution everybody here can work out in less than 10 minutes. So relax and give the guys the time they need. I rather want it working when they release the fix and not have to fix a second time. kind regards, Tobias W.