N'Abend..... Am Donnerstag, 23. April 2020, 11:34:14 CEST schrieb Stefan Behlert: [....]
I have no idea who the PM are.....
Hello Axel,
the only PM who is expected to work on Leap as well would be Stefan Behlert. He's in cc of this email. As already mentioned I'll discuss
Just to make this clear: I don't think Leap has a PM asigned to it. This does not mean we do not _care_ about Leap :) But it's different than e.g. SLES, where the PMs make the decisions, and are much more involved.
Good point - the community has not assigned that kind of role.
Never-the-less, let me comment on the image refresh: It may sound like a good idea, and it can help in cases where newer hardware needs a new Installer (resp. support for it).
AFAIK Lepa has the "installler sef-update" not enabled, so this would be even more beneficial in such cases.
Can you explain what this is?
But be aware: We have seen with SLE 15 SP1 that this is not "just" a simple refresh. It requires work, updates of media configuration as well as testing, and then you have to get it done at the "right" point in time. Or you leave out a dependency, or miss an important security update.
The approach should be more like TW - a successful openQA test may even trigger a new build. Toolchain should be in place, as this is how TW works
This does not mean Leap should not do it, but is a warnign that it's not easy. And I wonder how often people really stumble into new hardware issues before the next release. With SLE, this happens due to the long-time use of the same Service Pack, but for Leap I would expect that people rather take the latest version of Leap available, leaving only a 12 month timefrmae where it may be needed to update the installer.
This complain was already raised more often, not only in german media, but as well from users here. Sure, we all know that brand new hardware can be an issue with nearly any Linux system. But we should try our best to give users a positive experience with a solid system AND up to date drivers. 12 month is a way too long time for this. Cheers Axel -- Dr.-Ing. Axel K. Braun M: +49.173.7003.154 T: @coogor Matrix: @docb:matrix.org PGP Fingerprint: 2E7F 3A19 A4A4 844A 3D09 7656 822D EB64 A3BA 290D Public Key available at http://www.axxite.com/axel.braun@gmx.de.asc Personal Freedom starts with free/libre Software ThinkPad T520 running openSUSE Tumbleweed 20200419 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-releaseteam+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-releaseteam+owner@opensuse.org