Am Sonntag, 1. März 2020, 09:22:25 CET schrieb Axel Braun:
Am Samstag, 29. Februar 2020, 19:35:59 schrieb Sarah
> Von: "Marina Latini" <deneb_alpha(a)opensuse.org>
For the second time Sarah significantly breached the
principles and how she chose to deal with this situation led to
2/3rds of board members believing that she should step down from
her role within the board.
I did not breach the guiding principles.
Thats wrong. Multiple times, and you were already warned for this.
The warning I remember (and that was also brought up in the handover
meeting after two years) was triggered by something that you could call
a serious step, but it was something that is explicitly allowed in the
board rules. Getting a warning for such a thing is, well, questionable.
I wrote an
email to the openSUSE Board because of a conflict on
opensuse-project. I wrote that that has happened in the past really
often with that person. Therefore, I had asked the Board for
support. Gerald asked me for an explanation. I don't write to the
Board without any reasons.
This mail for the board was not the reason.
It clearly was the starting point for everything that happened
I am working with facts which have really happened.
You may have perceived it that way (as the only person).
Not the only person ;-) - but there's some history only seasoned board
members might know. I told the current board some of this history
(explaining everything would have taken hours), but it seems you decided
to ignore it.
As all of you can imagine, this decision was not an
easy one, and
board gave her the opportunity to try to solve what happened.
Unfortunately the ultimate outcome was to offer her to step down
instead of publicly removing her from the board per the openSUSE
And that is no demacracy! I had to choose between stepping down or
you would remove me without speaking with me before about that.
This is wrong. Between the handover meeting and your stepping down was
more than a week. You spoke to Marina, Gerald and me (and probably
Right, but at this time, there was no clear indication that someone
would consider to give Sarah this "choice". That "choice" came up
some days of silence.
When you told me (and a day later, Sarah) about this "choice", I had the
impression that you ignored all the arguments and background I gave, and
your decision was already set into stone.
that with me before giving me this "choice", and AFAIK Christian was
also excluded from most discussions, and when he was involved, you
already had decided and his arguments were ignored. He felt like
his arguments were ignored. I wanted to solve what has happened,
too. But you did not want to accept my arguments after the decision
without us. So the only acceptable option for me was stepping down.
No, you could have stayed.
I already heard that "joke" in the board meeting after Sarah had left,
and if it wouldn't be so sad, I'd laugh about it.
You (as in "most board members") presented Sarah (and the day before,
me) the options that she could either step down or would be removed in
the next meeting.
My impression was that you already had decided that "staying" is not an
option before telling or asking me, and ignored all my arguments and
explanations why Sarah did what she did.
I will not comment your sidekick here. Given the
between you and Christian, his move is understandable. Everybody in
the board regrets this move
To clarify what Axel means with "special relation": Sarah and I are
Given how long we know each other and how much we work(ed) together,
that shouldn't be a big surprise. For example, we are both founding
members of the heroes, and joined the board at the same time. We even
managed to (independently) upset the same person on the same day ;-) -
but I better don't go into details how this was handled back then
because it would make someone look quite bad.
IMHO being friends shouldn't mean avoiding to work together in the board
or elsewhere, and I'm sure it's much better than having to work with
"enemies"  ;-) Nevertheless, this doesn't mean that friends always
have to have the same opinion - different opinions are normal and ok.
I know all this might make me look biased, but I can assure you (and
told the board more than once) that I ignored this "detail" as much as
possible when deciding to leave the board.
To make it very clear: I did not resign "for Sarah".
In fact, I would have done the same if another board member would have
been treated in a similar way.
 To make it clear (and to avoid that someone tries to read between
the lines) - even after the recent events, I don't see anyone in the
board as an "enemy".
Die eigentliche Arbeit macht bei dem compare-Tool ja nicht das gute
Perl, sondern ImageMagick, und das ist nur in C++ programmiert (Das ist
eine Scriptsprache für Buffer-Overruns), weil viele Leute ja kein BASIC
können. Ich werde da mal im Forum posten, ob die das nicht in Perl neu
schreiben wollen. [Ratti in fontlinge-devel]
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