AW: Re: [opensuse-project] Re: SOPA blackout - I don't think openSUSE ought to be making political statements.
On Saturday, January 21, 2012 00:29:00 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 21/01/12 00:17, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On Thursday, January 19, 2012 00:29:59 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Wednesday, 2012-01-18 at 22:15 +0100, DenverD wrote:
On 01/18/2012 08:52 PM, Guido Berhoerster wrote:
I was trying to point out that the reasoning behind taking part in this protest promoting a certain politica agenda (no matter how well intended) is rather arbitrary and the said slippery slope. And I'm rather surprised the board is even entitled to make decisions about such matters which are at best peripherally related to openSUSE on behalf of the project.
i agree and suggest the board grossly overstepped their authority and their irresponsible behavior should be dealt with in some appropriate fashion...their removal would not be any more radical than their decision to jump into USA politics..
btw i am very anti-SOPA/PIPA but that is a private individual matter between me (as a citizen) and my government....this Community and its Board has _no_ standing in this matter whatsoever...in fact it is almost as childish to go black for a day as it is for the US government to think it can control the net in the first place...they do not have a clue.
I agree, too.
I may agree with the decission, but not in the form. The board can not decide for all in something so important as taking a political stance.
Ooh, get over it. And the same goes for Guido, Denver and Per, by the way. Blah Blah Blah.
A significant proportion of our user- and contributor base could be cut off from our websites due to some ridiculous law in the USA. Half the web, including sites like Wikipedia, is going black. In a public IRC meeting the board takes the consensus on the channel and decides (on short notice, there was little time) to join the worldwide protest. They did what they should do - as board. And you all voted for them to make decisions like these, so get of their backs and into your cage.
IF you have serious issues, send them to the board in private, don't bikeshed.
Esp Denver - "irresponsible behavior of the board" - dude, take your happy pills. You guys are, as usual, shooting with a canon at a flee at 2 feet distance and honestly it is getting VERY tiring.
Instead of bikeshedding, loadhttp://bit.ly/xY4Mzs and be useful.
You're overdoing the "bikeshed" crap.
And your language above does not fit in with your role as Community Manager.
BC
Oooh, I can't say bad words and call things by their name? Boehoe. It's my JOB to do that. Others might block silly treads like this one, or simply unsubscribe from the list. I'd rather unsubscribe those who start them and keep em going. If I could this list would just have lost 4-5 people causing 85% of its traffic. And be a place of zen and tranquility again.
And you say this is not bikeshedding? let's see. 75 mails and counting, wel over 20 by Per alone. Nothing new in the last 65 of those. Have I used the term 'drama queens' yet? Let me apply that to this thread and those keeping it pointlessly going...
I totally agree in 2 points: - Jos, you are right, but I guess you should act a bit more diplomatic than like what you are doing atm. call things by the name: great. Offending others: bad. - Lets get back to work. SOPA blackout was a decision by voted board. "Irresponsible behaviour" is not what I would agree to - Its a protest form. If openSUSE board thinks that's a good idea, I respect the decision of the board. And c'mon we're in good company if even non-political Wikipedia goes for it. Just my 0.02$ - mike -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Michael Kromer wrote:
- Lets get back to work. SOPA blackout was a decision by voted board. "Irresponsible behaviour" is not what I would agree to - Its a protest form. If openSUSE board thinks that's a good idea, I respect the decision of the board. And c'mon we're in good company if even non-political Wikipedia goes for it.
Only _one_ wikipedia organisation actually went for it, the others were much more restrained. We would have been in even better company had we not participated :-) -- Per Jessen, Zürich (5.4°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
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Michael Kromer
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