[opensuse-project] Google Code-In
All, Google s once again running the Google Code-In project that we as the openSUSE project have participated in previously. It would be great if someone can step up and drive the organization. Last year Manu did a great job and we had a successful Code-In. Below is the announcement: Later, Robert Hello GSoC Mentors, We are excited to announce [0] that we will be running the Google Code-in [1] contest for 13-17 pre-university students again this fall. The contest will begin for students on Monday, November 26th, 2012 [2]. Organizations will be able to apply to be one of the 10 mentoring organizations beginning Monday, October 22nd (the Monday after the GSoC Mentor Summit in Mountain View, CA). We will have a session on Google Code-in during the Mentor Summit for people to learn more about the program and for previous mentors and org admins to give us their feedback and thoughts on the program. When you read through the Contest Rules for this year you will notice some major changes that we implemented based on your feedback and student feedback from last year. The main points are below with more mentor information on the GCI Wiki [3]. The point system has been overhauled and now every task is worth one point. The 5 students with the highest number of completed tasks with your org will be the pool from which you, the mentoring org, will choose your 2 Grand Prize winners based on the overall complete body of work of those 5 students. There will be 10 Mentoring Orgs for a total of 20 Grand Prize Winners (compared to 10 last year). Translation tasks will no longer be a part of the Google Code-in contest, either as its own category or as a part of documentation efforts. If students want to go for the Grand Prize they will work predominantly with one org and will hopefully become involved with the community of that org and will stay long after the GCI contest is over. Students will not earn cash prizes for their work. They will earn certificates and t-shirts and then they can go for the grand prize if they wish. The contest was shortened by a week at the beginning of the contest period so it will now start after the Thanksgiving holidays in the USA. We hope you will help us spread the word about the Google Code-in contest so we can introduce more young developers to the wonderful world of open source. If you will be going to any talks or conferences aimed at pre-university students in the next couple of months we would be happy to send you some stickers for GCI. Please contact me directly at sttaylor@google.com. [0] http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2012/09/google-code-in-contest-for-hig... [1] http://www.google-melange.com/gci/homepage/google/gci2012 [2] http://www.google-melange.com/gci/events/google/gci2012 [3] http://code.google.com/p/google-code-in/wiki/GCIMentorInformation2012 Best, Stephanie Taylor -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX Tech Lead rjschwei@suse.com rschweik@ca.ibm.com 781-464-8147 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Hey All, On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Robert Schweikert <rjschwei@suse.com> wrote:
All,
Google s once again running the Google Code-In project that we as the openSUSE project have participated in previously.
It would be great if someone can step up and drive the organization. Last year Manu did a great job and we had a successful Code-In.
Thanks Robert, I have already started with wiki changes. Any help is offcourse welcome, Once they are ready we can all start adding tasks easily. Also, Please note that 1. Rules have changed. This time we have no money involved which I think is a positive thing from Google. 2. Only 10 organizations will be selected ( that means more competition for us ) I am still going through the rules, I hope to get it in place soon.
Below is the announcement:
Later, Robert
Hello GSoC Mentors,
We are excited to announce [0] that we will be running the Google Code-in [1] contest for 13-17 pre-university students again this fall. The contest will begin for students on Monday, November 26th, 2012 [2].
Organizations will be able to apply to be one of the 10 mentoring organizations beginning Monday, October 22nd (the Monday after the GSoC Mentor Summit in Mountain View, CA). We will have a session on Google Code-in during the Mentor Summit for people to learn more about the program and for previous mentors and org admins to give us their feedback and thoughts on the program.
When you read through the Contest Rules for this year you will notice some major changes that we implemented based on your feedback and student feedback from last year. The main points are below with more mentor information on the GCI Wiki [3].
The point system has been overhauled and now every task is worth one point. The 5 students with the highest number of completed tasks with your org will be the pool from which you, the mentoring org, will choose your 2 Grand Prize winners based on the overall complete body of work of those 5 students. There will be 10 Mentoring Orgs for a total of 20 Grand Prize Winners (compared to 10 last year). Translation tasks will no longer be a part of the Google Code-in contest, either as its own category or as a part of documentation efforts. If students want to go for the Grand Prize they will work predominantly with one org and will hopefully become involved with the community of that org and will stay long after the GCI contest is over. Students will not earn cash prizes for their work. They will earn certificates and t-shirts and then they can go for the grand prize if they wish. The contest was shortened by a week at the beginning of the contest period so it will now start after the Thanksgiving holidays in the USA.
We hope you will help us spread the word about the Google Code-in contest so we can introduce more young developers to the wonderful world of open source. If you will be going to any talks or conferences aimed at pre-university students in the next couple of months we would be happy to send you some stickers for GCI. Please contact me directly at sttaylor@google.com.
[0] http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2012/09/google-code-in-contest-for-hig... [1] http://www.google-melange.com/gci/homepage/google/gci2012 [2] http://www.google-melange.com/gci/events/google/gci2012 [3] http://code.google.com/p/google-code-in/wiki/GCIMentorInformation2012
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Hey All, I have started with the wiki pages with almost all the help from Rajko. Please have a look at it and review it. This is also a call for mentors and task fillers who can fill up the tasks that are necessary. Thanks a lot Manu On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 12:08 AM, Manu Gupta <manugupt1@opensuse.org> wrote:
Hey All,
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Robert Schweikert <rjschwei@suse.com> wrote:
All,
Google s once again running the Google Code-In project that we as the openSUSE project have participated in previously.
It would be great if someone can step up and drive the organization. Last year Manu did a great job and we had a successful Code-In.
Thanks Robert, I have already started with wiki changes. Any help is offcourse welcome, Once they are ready we can all start adding tasks easily.
Also, Please note that 1. Rules have changed. This time we have no money involved which I think is a positive thing from Google. 2. Only 10 organizations will be selected ( that means more competition for us )
I am still going through the rules, I hope to get it in place soon.
Below is the announcement:
Later, Robert
Hello GSoC Mentors,
We are excited to announce [0] that we will be running the Google Code-in [1] contest for 13-17 pre-university students again this fall. The contest will begin for students on Monday, November 26th, 2012 [2].
Organizations will be able to apply to be one of the 10 mentoring organizations beginning Monday, October 22nd (the Monday after the GSoC Mentor Summit in Mountain View, CA). We will have a session on Google Code-in during the Mentor Summit for people to learn more about the program and for previous mentors and org admins to give us their feedback and thoughts on the program.
When you read through the Contest Rules for this year you will notice some major changes that we implemented based on your feedback and student feedback from last year. The main points are below with more mentor information on the GCI Wiki [3].
The point system has been overhauled and now every task is worth one point. The 5 students with the highest number of completed tasks with your org will be the pool from which you, the mentoring org, will choose your 2 Grand Prize winners based on the overall complete body of work of those 5 students. There will be 10 Mentoring Orgs for a total of 20 Grand Prize Winners (compared to 10 last year). Translation tasks will no longer be a part of the Google Code-in contest, either as its own category or as a part of documentation efforts. If students want to go for the Grand Prize they will work predominantly with one org and will hopefully become involved with the community of that org and will stay long after the GCI contest is over. Students will not earn cash prizes for their work. They will earn certificates and t-shirts and then they can go for the grand prize if they wish. The contest was shortened by a week at the beginning of the contest period so it will now start after the Thanksgiving holidays in the USA.
We hope you will help us spread the word about the Google Code-in contest so we can introduce more young developers to the wonderful world of open source. If you will be going to any talks or conferences aimed at pre-university students in the next couple of months we would be happy to send you some stickers for GCI. Please contact me directly at sttaylor@google.com.
[0] http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2012/09/google-code-in-contest-for-hig... [1] http://www.google-melange.com/gci/homepage/google/gci2012 [2] http://www.google-melange.com/gci/events/google/gci2012 [3] http://code.google.com/p/google-code-in/wiki/GCIMentorInformation2012
Best, Stephanie Taylor -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX Tech Lead rjschwei@suse.com rschweik@ca.ibm.com 781-464-8147 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
-- Regards Manu Gupta
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Nice work once again It is time once more to rock :D 2012/10/1 Manu Gupta <manugupt1@opensuse.org>:
Hey All,
I have started with the wiki pages with almost all the help from Rajko. Please have a look at it and review it. This is also a call for mentors and task fillers who can fill up the tasks that are necessary.
Thanks a lot Manu
I would like to help like last year Links please :)
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 12:08 AM, Manu Gupta <manugupt1@opensuse.org> wrote:
Hey All,
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Robert Schweikert <rjschwei@suse.com> wrote:
All,
Google s once again running the Google Code-In project that we as the openSUSE project have participated in previously.
It would be great if someone can step up and drive the organization. Last year Manu did a great job and we had a successful Code-In.
Thanks Robert, I have already started with wiki changes. Any help is offcourse welcome, Once they are ready we can all start adding tasks easily.
Also, Please note that 1. Rules have changed. This time we have no money involved which I think is a positive thing from Google. 2. Only 10 organizations will be selected ( that means more competition for us )
I am still going through the rules, I hope to get it in place soon.
Below is the announcement:
Later, Robert
Hello GSoC Mentors,
We are excited to announce [0] that we will be running the Google Code-in [1] contest for 13-17 pre-university students again this fall. The contest will begin for students on Monday, November 26th, 2012 [2].
Organizations will be able to apply to be one of the 10 mentoring organizations beginning Monday, October 22nd (the Monday after the GSoC Mentor Summit in Mountain View, CA). We will have a session on Google Code-in during the Mentor Summit for people to learn more about the program and for previous mentors and org admins to give us their feedback and thoughts on the program.
When you read through the Contest Rules for this year you will notice some major changes that we implemented based on your feedback and student feedback from last year. The main points are below with more mentor information on the GCI Wiki [3].
The point system has been overhauled and now every task is worth one point. The 5 students with the highest number of completed tasks with your org will be the pool from which you, the mentoring org, will choose your 2 Grand Prize winners based on the overall complete body of work of those 5 students. There will be 10 Mentoring Orgs for a total of 20 Grand Prize Winners (compared to 10 last year). Translation tasks will no longer be a part of the Google Code-in contest, either as its own category or as a part of documentation efforts. If students want to go for the Grand Prize they will work predominantly with one org and will hopefully become involved with the community of that org and will stay long after the GCI contest is over. Students will not earn cash prizes for their work. They will earn certificates and t-shirts and then they can go for the grand prize if they wish. The contest was shortened by a week at the beginning of the contest period so it will now start after the Thanksgiving holidays in the USA.
We hope you will help us spread the word about the Google Code-in contest so we can introduce more young developers to the wonderful world of open source. If you will be going to any talks or conferences aimed at pre-university students in the next couple of months we would be happy to send you some stickers for GCI. Please contact me directly at sttaylor@google.com.
[0] http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2012/09/google-code-in-contest-for-hig... [1] http://www.google-melange.com/gci/homepage/google/gci2012 [2] http://www.google-melange.com/gci/events/google/gci2012 [3] http://code.google.com/p/google-code-in/wiki/GCIMentorInformation2012
Best, Stephanie Taylor -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX Tech Lead rjschwei@suse.com rschweik@ca.ibm.com 781-464-8147 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
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On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Kostas Koudaras <warlordfff@gmail.com> wrote:
Nice work once again It is time once more to rock :D
2012/10/1 Manu Gupta <manugupt1@opensuse.org>:
Hey All,
I have started with the wiki pages with almost all the help from Rajko. Please have a look at it and review it. This is also a call for mentors and task fillers who can fill up the tasks that are necessary.
Thanks a lot Manu
I would like to help like last year Links please :) http://wiki.opensuse.org/openSUSE:GCI
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 12:08 AM, Manu Gupta <manugupt1@opensuse.org> wrote:
Hey All,
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Robert Schweikert <rjschwei@suse.com> wrote:
All,
Google s once again running the Google Code-In project that we as the openSUSE project have participated in previously.
It would be great if someone can step up and drive the organization. Last year Manu did a great job and we had a successful Code-In.
Thanks Robert, I have already started with wiki changes. Any help is offcourse welcome, Once they are ready we can all start adding tasks easily.
Also, Please note that 1. Rules have changed. This time we have no money involved which I think is a positive thing from Google. 2. Only 10 organizations will be selected ( that means more competition for us )
I am still going through the rules, I hope to get it in place soon.
Below is the announcement:
Later, Robert
Hello GSoC Mentors,
We are excited to announce [0] that we will be running the Google Code-in [1] contest for 13-17 pre-university students again this fall. The contest will begin for students on Monday, November 26th, 2012 [2].
Organizations will be able to apply to be one of the 10 mentoring organizations beginning Monday, October 22nd (the Monday after the GSoC Mentor Summit in Mountain View, CA). We will have a session on Google Code-in during the Mentor Summit for people to learn more about the program and for previous mentors and org admins to give us their feedback and thoughts on the program.
When you read through the Contest Rules for this year you will notice some major changes that we implemented based on your feedback and student feedback from last year. The main points are below with more mentor information on the GCI Wiki [3].
The point system has been overhauled and now every task is worth one point. The 5 students with the highest number of completed tasks with your org will be the pool from which you, the mentoring org, will choose your 2 Grand Prize winners based on the overall complete body of work of those 5 students. There will be 10 Mentoring Orgs for a total of 20 Grand Prize Winners (compared to 10 last year). Translation tasks will no longer be a part of the Google Code-in contest, either as its own category or as a part of documentation efforts. If students want to go for the Grand Prize they will work predominantly with one org and will hopefully become involved with the community of that org and will stay long after the GCI contest is over. Students will not earn cash prizes for their work. They will earn certificates and t-shirts and then they can go for the grand prize if they wish. The contest was shortened by a week at the beginning of the contest period so it will now start after the Thanksgiving holidays in the USA.
We hope you will help us spread the word about the Google Code-in contest so we can introduce more young developers to the wonderful world of open source. If you will be going to any talks or conferences aimed at pre-university students in the next couple of months we would be happy to send you some stickers for GCI. Please contact me directly at sttaylor@google.com.
[0] http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2012/09/google-code-in-contest-for-hig... [1] http://www.google-melange.com/gci/homepage/google/gci2012 [2] http://www.google-melange.com/gci/events/google/gci2012 [3] http://code.google.com/p/google-code-in/wiki/GCIMentorInformation2012
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Le lundi 01 octobre 2012, à 22:33 +0530, Manu Gupta a écrit :
Hey All,
I have started with the wiki pages with almost all the help from Rajko. Please have a look at it and review it. This is also a call for mentors and task fillers who can fill up the tasks that are necessary.
Also, I guess having one or two additional admins wouldn't hurt: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:GCI#Organization /me looks at Robert and Matt ;-) Of course, others are welcome! Cheers, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2 Oct 2012, Vincent Untz wrote:
Also, I guess having one or two additional admins wouldn't hurt: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:GCI#Organization
/me looks at Robert and Matt ;-) Of course, others are welcome!
I'm in :-) -- Matt Barringer, Software Engineer SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, DE GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg)
On Tue, 2012-10-02 at 09:24 +0200, Matt Barringer wrote:
On Tue, 2 Oct 2012, Vincent Untz wrote:
Also, I guess having one or two additional admins wouldn't hurt: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:GCI#Organization
/me looks at Robert and Matt ;-) Of course, others are welcome!
I'm in :-)
-- Matt Barringer, Software Engineer SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, DE GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg)
I think it is great that we have this opportunity once again to mentor young adults in such a wonderful environment, I do have some concerns that we need to think about. While last year, some people expressed that we did not have good focus for GCI, it could be debated that the nature of the program last year made focus a difficult thing. But the biggest problem I saw while mentoring students is that most of these students were just coming in to "grab the money and run." These tasks were, IIRC, for a two week period, but frequently, these students would come in with just 2-3 days of available time because it was so close to their school finals and didn't have much time for anything else. So they would come in, rush through their tasks and then disappear and we never see them again. It seemed like all they were interested in was cashing in on their GCI cash award benefits without any real care for the work nor the relationship building that we get from GSoC students. I get that these students were faced with bad timing, and they saw dollar signs in their eyes, but we, as mentors, are volunteers and we do this not to help some poor unknown kid halfway around the world get some cash in their pockets, but to develop good long-lasting relationships and to really help these kids develop a proper approach to the great opportunities we give them which go far beyond just the immediate cash reward. I think we should be firmer somehow and ensure these kids stick around at least for the duration of the GCI program. It is our unpaid time that benefits their paid time and they need to learn to appreciate what we do for them. Bryen M Yunashko openSUSE Project -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Bryen M Yunashko <suserocks@bryen.com> wrote:
On Tue, 2012-10-02 at 09:24 +0200, Matt Barringer wrote:
On Tue, 2 Oct 2012, Vincent Untz wrote:
Also, I guess having one or two additional admins wouldn't hurt: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:GCI#Organization
/me looks at Robert and Matt ;-) Of course, others are welcome!
I'm in :-)
-- Matt Barringer, Software Engineer SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, DE GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg)
I think it is great that we have this opportunity once again to mentor young adults in such a wonderful environment, I do have some concerns that we need to think about.
While last year, some people expressed that we did not have good focus for GCI, it could be debated that the nature of the program last year made focus a difficult thing. But the biggest problem I saw while mentoring students is that most of these students were just coming in to "grab the money and run."
These tasks were, IIRC, for a two week period, but frequently, these students would come in with just 2-3 days of available time because it was so close to their school finals and didn't have much time for anything else. So they would come in, rush through their tasks and then disappear and we never see them again.
It seemed like all they were interested in was cashing in on their GCI cash award benefits without any real care for the work nor the relationship building that we get from GSoC students.
This year Google is not giving out any money
I get that these students were faced with bad timing, and they saw dollar signs in their eyes, but we, as mentors, are volunteers and we do this not to help some poor unknown kid halfway around the world get some cash in their pockets, but to develop good long-lasting relationships and to really help these kids develop a proper approach to the great opportunities we give them which go far beyond just the immediate cash reward.
I think we should be firmer somehow and ensure these kids stick around at least for the duration of the GCI program. It is our unpaid time that benefits their paid time and they need to learn to appreciate what we do for them.
Agreed, but it also depends on the time a mentor has ( so its on a time per basis )
Bryen M Yunashko openSUSE Project
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On Tue, 2012-10-02 at 15:32 +0530, Manu Gupta wrote:
I think we should be firmer somehow and ensure these kids stick around at least for the duration of the GCI program. It is our unpaid time that benefits their paid time and they need to learn to appreciate what we do for them.
Agreed, but it also depends on the time a mentor has ( so its on a time per basis )
With all due respect, I think *most* mentors already agreed/agree to at least a reasonable amount of conscious time commitment to the program. I honestly don't think mentors' time commitment, overall, has been a problem over the years here in openSUSE. Bryen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2 Oct 2012, Bryen M Yunashko wrote:
I think we should be firmer somehow and ensure these kids stick around at least for the duration of the GCI program. It is our unpaid time that benefits their paid time and they need to learn to appreciate what we do for them.
Google has changed the setup to encourage that: * Only 10 mentoring orgs, each org chooses two "grand prize winners" to go to Google HQ * No money involved * If students want to win the grand prize, they'll have to primarily work with a single org But you're right - we need to think a bit more carefully this year about the tasks, IMO. -- Matt Barringer, Software Engineer SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, DE GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg)
On 10/02/2012 05:44 AM, Bryen M Yunashko wrote:
On Tue, 2012-10-02 at 09:24 +0200, Matt Barringer wrote:
On Tue, 2 Oct 2012, Vincent Untz wrote:
Also, I guess having one or two additional admins wouldn't hurt: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:GCI#Organization
/me looks at Robert and Matt ;-) Of course, others are welcome!
I'm in :-)
-- Matt Barringer, Software Engineer SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, DE GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg)
I think it is great that we have this opportunity once again to mentor young adults in such a wonderful environment, I do have some concerns that we need to think about.
While last year, some people expressed that we did not have good focus for GCI, it could be debated that the nature of the program last year made focus a difficult thing. But the biggest problem I saw while mentoring students is that most of these students were just coming in to "grab the money and run."
These tasks were, IIRC, for a two week period, but frequently, these students would come in with just 2-3 days of available time because it was so close to their school finals and didn't have much time for anything else. So they would come in, rush through their tasks and then disappear and we never see them again.
It seemed like all they were interested in was cashing in on their GCI cash award benefits without any real care for the work nor the relationship building that we get from GSoC students.
I get that these students were faced with bad timing, and they saw dollar signs in their eyes, but we, as mentors, are volunteers and we do this not to help some poor unknown kid halfway around the world get some cash in their pockets, but to develop good long-lasting relationships and to really help these kids develop a proper approach to the great opportunities we give them which go far beyond just the immediate cash reward.
I think we should be firmer somehow and ensure these kids stick around at least for the duration of the GCI program. It is our unpaid time that benefits their paid time and they need to learn to appreciate what we do for them.
Valid concerns. On the other hand we got stuff done that someone else paid for, thanks Google, and that probably would not have gotten done otherwise. Thus, even in the "less then ideal" setup we had, there were benefits to the project and I would not say that mentoring time was wasted. Anyway, with Google taking the money off the table the focus of those who sign up to participate should shift, probably providing a better starting point. Later, Robert -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX Tech Lead rjschwei@suse.com rschweik@ca.ibm.com 781-464-8147 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
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Bryen M Yunashko
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Kostas Koudaras
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Manu Gupta
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Matt Barringer
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Robert Schweikert
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Vincent Untz