On Wednesday 2018-01-24 20:50, Stasiek wrote:

I was instructed by Ludwig a few weeks back to post about Themes here [..] I committed a theme, so openSUSE may not be just great working, but also great looking. It is also a part of the greater Leap 15.0 branding preparations [..] [..] is it something that may interest you and do you want to have that in your system from the start, to make it look and feel nice?

A theme should be practical and not get in the way (like redmond95). If it is also "nice" (which redmond95 is arguably not), that's even better. Suffice to say, at present, the Geeko theme has several issues (intentional or not) that get in the way, without even talking about specific colors or what "nice" even means. * http://inai.de/geeko1.png - what Geeko looks on 42.3 XFCE * http://inai.de/ra.png - what I have used, to my surprise, for 6 years straight Do you enjoy a puzzle, or shall I name the issues? ;-) (Possibly on a different list or something?) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

As long as Crux works on Xfce I'm a happy camper On 01/24/2018 11:50 AM, Stasiek wrote:

Hi,

I was instructed by Ludwig a few weeks back to post about Themes here, as Artwork ML is apparently dead (which is quite sad). I am entirely to blame if this feels out of scope here though.

This might be completly out of the blue, because that is something that openSUSE has not been doing for years now, but I committed a theme, so openSUSE may not be just great working, but also great looking. It is also a part of the greater Leap 15.0 branding preparations I have been doing for a few months now [1] (and apparently generating a lot of bugs in the process, sorry). Presenting Geeko GTK theme [2] and to lesser extent, for now, Geeko KDE theme [3], and, as a complementary icon theme, Origami [4] as an idea for primary themes, for future openSUSE versions in environments such as GNOME or XFCE.

Brief reminder to openSUSE Factory on which can be caught up to speed is here: https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2018-01/msg00296.html

Fine, but why is it so important to announce it here, you may ask? Awareness in this case is the most important factor. The more people know about it, the more people submit bug reports, and when more people use it daily and say what should be improved, the easier it is to make sure that it will be 100% ready for all kinds of environments in which openSUSE is used, before it's decided that it's rock sturdy and ready to rock (I couldn't resist, sorry), so we don't have a Solus/Bungie situation where all themes look broken beyond repair (for which I'm also really sorry, bad experiences).

It's also very important to make DE maintainers aware of this kind of change. I want to address every concern anybody might have about it, especially from DE maintainers, because that is something that will affect this part of openSUSE the most. This will be huge departure from previous routes, so all decisions should be considered by a bigger part of the community.

It will also come with some changes that will be required to make the most out of those themes, on which the community should also comment. Mainly connected to GNOME's shell theming and extension for that, but most importantly YaST, that of which I tried to take the most care of. It would be nice to have a consistent icon set for patterns and RPM groups (as it is now, those parts seem impossible to change from a user's point of view), because as of now, we have 3 different icon sets across both of those parts of YaST (which, in my humble opinion, is just awful -- decide on one and stick with it, if that's what you're aiming for). I made Origami to have all possible YaST icons looking to YaST theme repo on Github, including patterns and misc. icons from there, for full compatibility's sake.

GNOME would need an additional package to have the shell themed properly (User Themes) because apparently, we can't have that functionality OOTB. It's worth discussing if we want a system wide extension, which would need to be updated as quickly as new versions come out, because the Gnome Extensions page doesn't care that it's a system plugin and tries to update it anyway, usually breaking everything in the process (something that happened a few times on Fedora with some plugins which, again, is a bad experience).

I leave it up to you now to decide, is it something that may interest you and do you want to have that in your system from the start, to make it look and feel nice?

Have a nice day,

​LCP [Stasiek] https://lcp.world

[1] https://github.com/openSUSE/branding [2] https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/openSUSE:Factory/geeko-gtk-theme https://github.com/LelCP/geeko-gtk-theme [3] https://github.com/LelCP/geeko-kde-theme [4] https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/openSUSE:Factory/origami-icon-theme https://github.com/LelCP/origami-icon-theme